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    Posted: 06 Oct. 09 at 14:15
my son has a 5 mm calcium stone at uvp junction on left side. nux vpmica given for symptoms. stone didn't pass. currently asymptomatic. he did very well on constitutional nat mur in past. any naturopathic or homeopathic suggestions thanks
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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct. 09 at 20:08
without wasting time consult a surgeon.
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  Quote howard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct. 09 at 14:32
ct shows only mild hydronephrosis. urologist is willing to wait to see if he will pass it. any advice?
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  Quote Katja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct. 09 at 15:20

Dear Howard,

you write that he did well on Nat-m in the past but that he has a 5mm Calc stone. My first thought would be whether Nat-m was correctly chosen as his constitutional remedy ?
Did the stone get larger or even appear during the treatment with Nat-m ? Then it was surely not the correct remedy. Why did the practitioner give Nux-v now ? According to the symptoms ?
You write that he is asymptomatic now. If he does not have any symptoms we can't rescribe any remedy. Only healthy people don't have symptoms as these are the outward reflection and expression of disease, but if there is a stone then he can hardly be considered being healthy...
Without knowing the whole case I can only recommend to continue treatment with the truely indicated remedy, i.e. chronic constitutional prescribing (and to have an acute intercurrent at hand if necessary). But a homeopathic prescription is not made according to the name of the disease, like kidney stones, but based on the patients individual totality of charateristic symptoms. A chronic case amnmesis is necessary and I'm sure a professional homeopath who prescribes according to the laws and principles of homeopathy will be able to help your son.  To induce passing of the stone is one thing, to prevent recurrence is the most important point which proper homeopathic treatment can provide. As your urologist is willing to wait I would use this opportunity of non-invasive treatment by all means.


 
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Hi,

Yeah, firstly you have to consult with good surgeon, and tell him to drink water as much as he can. drinking more water is one of the positive way for dealing with kidney stone.


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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 20:17
Constitutional remedies can prevent reformation of Kidney or gallstones.Removal is possible with those remedies proved helpful in clinical practice and they are mentioned in homeopathic literature.It is one sided ailment.
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  Quote sajjadakram Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 20:25
Constitutional remedies are always slow in action and delay in the above mentioned case can be harmful for the patient.
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  Quote N Madhavan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 20:46
'Constitutional remedies are always slow in action and delay in the above mentioned case can be harmful for the patient.'ange.

...I find it strange. Please explain.

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  Quote Manish Bhatia Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 20:55
Sajjad, why do you want the patient to be rushed to a surgeon for a stone merely 5mm in size? Such a small stone can be helped out either with a medicine that covers the totality of the case or something more organ-specific.

Howard for how long, did you give the remedy? It can sometimes take many weeks for the calculus to flush. Try consulting a professional homeopath close to your place.
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Dr B,
I agree with you.For ckeck up only.
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I concur...
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Niel,
It is not strange. When you have a one sided case like Kidney stones and you want to dissolve or expel them, and after taking his/her general symptoms, suppose you select his/her constitutional remedy Argentum. Do not expect cure in fortnight. It may take months and months and the delay can be harmful.
In these type of cases I always use organ specifics or the medicines clinically verified for curing these cases because now a days patient do not give us sufficient time. They want to see the result within days, at least in this subcontinent..
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Originally posted by sajjadakram

Niel,
It is not strange. When you have a one sided case like Kidney stones and you want to dissolve or expel them, and after taking his/her general symptoms, suppose you select his/her constitutional remedy Argentum. Do not expect cure in fortnight. It may take months and months and the delay can be harmful.
In these type of cases I always use organ specifics or the medicines clinically verified for curing these cases because now a days patient do not give us sufficient time. They want to see the result within days, at least in this subcontinent..
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Hi Sajjad

Agreed, it is a one-sided case. Also true that symptom picture is not clear. A physician would naturally be lured into using Berberis or Hydrangea or similar organ-specific remedies. Even some combination of Tissue Salts have been found useful.

But this doesn't imply in any way that Constitutional Remedy will always be slow. From my experience, I have found that a well-chosen constitutional remedy based on Mentals and Physical Generals lead to cure with amazing rapidity. In many cases where the generals were not very clear, I have tried using Nosodes based on the Miasmatic Tendency that could be gained out of the mentals. It would often bring out the symptoms that would point to the right remedy.

I appreciate the point that these organ-specific drugs are often a useful shortcut. I accept it as one of the many facets of Homeopathy. But that doesn't and shouldn't lead me to believe that other facets are inconsequential.

I strongly believe that if we can find the constitutional remedy and device a proper posology corresponding to it, cure happens at an amazing speed.

Keep smiling Smile

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  Quote N Madhavan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct. 09 at 06:12
An interesting article on the topic:

http://www.homeoint.org/books3/kentwrit/writ28.htm

Add the application of Nosodes and LM potency and the cure will often happen with great speed Clap, unless of course the case has been rendered incurable by advanced pathological changes or very weak vital force because of age Cry.

Keep smiling Smile

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Keep smiling Smile
Thank you for this.It at once changes the mind and brings calmness.Big smile
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Agreed, it is a one-sided case. Also true that symptom picture is not clear. A physician would naturally be lured into using Berberis or Hydrangea or similar organ-specific remedies. Even some combination of Tissue Salts have been found useful.

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