Need help with how to convert 30X to 30C

Hi mcool,

What is the difference between an X and a C potency?
An X potency is diluted on a 1:9 scale -1 part remedy to 9 parts liquid or solid. A C potency is diluted on a scale of 1:99 -1 part remedy to 99 parts liquid or solid. Therefore, a C potency, by being more dilute, may be considered “stronger” homeopathically. However, stronger is not always better. If you wanted a 30c but can only get a 30x, the 30x would be fine because both have been diluted 30 times. It is the correct remedy, not the potency, that makes the difference.

got is from this site : http://www.remedysource.com/help/faq.php

Mirjam

Mirjam`s  answer is far better and more correct than Nadeem`s answer. Nadeem should read more good books on homeopathy !

Please see : http://www.pets4homeopathy.com/potencies.html

W.J.

Hi! willemina

Thnak you to post to my reply.  I think my reply was not gone through with care.  I had not said any where that the remedy is not important. 

In fact I limited myself to the base question "How to convert 30x potency to 30c". And I think the reply was right.

It is obvious that mere potency is nothing but it is drug that, if potentized, works better. If drug is not correctly selected, obviously the potency would not do any thing, rather it may be harmful in certain cases.
Now I think you would be satisfied. So far as the formula I quoted above it was learnt from this forum and I have experienced it and fould working very very good.

I have now gone through the link provided by you i.e. http://www.pets4homeopathy.com/potencies.html  I am quoting below three paragraphs from the article.

1.   "Hahnemann diluted the remedies in steps. He added 99 parts of a mixture of alcohol and water (and for triturations using lactose) to one part of the original substance and shook the mixture 100 times, creating the first potency with the symbol 1C (the C stands for centesimal)."

2.   "Some American and German doctors used a different progression. Instead of adding 99 parts to one part of the original substance they added only 9 parts. The dynamizing was the same but the amount of dynamizing was doubled for the same physical dilution. These remedies are called decimal potencies and the symbol is x, the roman letter for 10. In Europe, these decimal potencies have the symbol D (for decimal), and the D is placed before the number. Example: 10x or D10. "

3.   "Practically speaking, however, the potency is not the most important factor in the use of homeopathic remedies. Because of the fact that every doctor has his or her cherished potency, a certain potency will be prescribed more often. This happens because the doctor had good results with a certain potency for specific kinds of symptoms in certain kinds of patients. After working with many thousands of patients over the last 30 years, I have never personally had to prescribe a potency beyond 15x to effect a desired result. That is not to say there is no use for higher potencies, just that I have yet to see a need for them clinically."

You will please realize that the description I given about potencies i.e. Centicemal & Decimal are correct and thus my advice was correct.

Thanks a lot.

Sincerely yours

A.R.Nadeem

Why not always buy the correct potency in the first place ? Moreover it should be explained to laymen that the 30th potency is not the same as a 30x (or D30) potency.

The 30th is the same as 30c or 30ch or 30k (or in some countries C30 )and although the preparation of a K potency is a little different (=single glass preparation according to Korsakov), it is still considered to be a C potency.

To say or imply mineral water only is used for dilution is incorrect. You can also use boiled cooled down tapwater or distilled water !

In difficult circumstances where none of the 3 possibilities are available, you even can /should use water from a brook, river etc., but only if you actually have no other choice e.g. staying in the jungle etc.  

People who know a little about vet.homeopathy know that sometimes a remedy has to be given with some food, e.g. to a dog or a cat etc. which is/was even done by great vet. homeopaths such as Dr. George Macleod (for 50 years !), Dr. Day etc.

For extremely difficult cases the food can be incorporated in some food (e.g. for cats in a little cream cheese or minced meat or a little milk or for dogs in a soaked wheat biscuit or for a horse in a piece of apple or a piece of organic carrot etc.), because it is sometimes more important to avoid subjecting the patient to undue stress, esp. if the animal is quite unco-operative.

So it`s obvious from these posts that for certain people there`s still a lot to study, read, etc. in order to enable them to give good advice and until one has finished a proper study and has qualified this can best be left to qualified professionals ! Same holds good for so called holistic healers giving homeopathic advice without being qualified for homeopathy !

Ann (moderator at :  http://forum4you.biz/forums/homeohealing.html )

Ann is correct

the well indicated remedy must be choosen as well as the CORRECT POTENCY.

Gina Tyler

You`re welcome to visit our place in Zoetermeer any time you like to have a look at Wim`s qualifications ( 2 hom. dipl. for people and 2 for animals + 1 dipl. Aetiology/Anatomy). He is a retired qualified teacher of English, which was his main profession and homeopath for people and animals was only his secondary profession, which is known to all his colleagues on the ( large) forums. He usually helped people for free and sometimes still does, because homeopathy is not his actual livelyhood. He was registered with the SGZ (which isn`t obligatory in Holland, by the way) and our daughter has also qualifications for several professions (e.g. qualified teacher of English, accountant etc. and is registered with the SGZ as a qualified homeopath for animals (2 dipl.). Please feel free to call the SGZ any time you like !

Wim has had his name removed from 3 different  holistic websites after his retirement and didn`t have his own homeopathic website. I can give you the names of the websites if you want to !

If you send your telephone number in an e-mail we can make an appointment, but if you have seen all his qualifications we not only expect a full apology from you but a free dinner for two at a restaurant of our choice. Agreed ? 

If you really knew what kind of man Wim actually is and had read more of his posts you wouldn`t have made this silly mistake, because all his colleagues know he can avail himself of a very retentive memory and is specialised in many homeopathic subjects and greatly appreciated by many well known people or colleagues such as Prof. Rajendra, Dr. Mas, Gina Tyler, and many others. Colleagues always say he has a huge knowledge of homeopathy. He also was, for example Gina Tyler`s back up when she was in Indonesia during the Bali crisis to help her prescribing  for tropical disease etc. and in case she got stuck with any homeopathic problem or case.

Wim also used to be, and this is also known to many colleagues here,  a policeman/detective in the Hague and has a black belt of judo and taught judo to children.

So please think again before you slander anyone and in case you still have doubts please visit us to admire the diploma`s on the wall in his modest consultation room ! His name + full address are mentioned in the telephone directory. Many of his friends and colleagues here will be surprised, to put it mildly, that you wrote such a post about him and will without any hesitation vouch for him !

Ann  (Wim`s wife)

 I know your husband has studied at Sorag,this are written courses.I did to,have all the papers for hom.for people and for animals as wel for Flowertherapist,but I never ever would give myself the title;qualified.That's also the reason why I studie at homeopathic school know.For SGZ?I alreay called yesterday before I asked on this forum.Futher ;I did not ask you to give a complete history of qualifications from your husband. Neither is it for any value to me to know that your husband has a black belt in judo and worked with the police.This is a homeopathyforum!And please ask your husband to  send me no personal messages anymore.

Else.

You`re welcome to visit our place in Zoetermeer any time you like to have a look at Wim`s qualifications ( 2 hom. dipl. for people and 2 for animals + 1 dipl. Aetiology/Anatomy). He is a retired qualified teacher of English, which was his main profession and homeopath for people and animals was only his secondary profession, which is known to all his colleagues on the ( large) forums. He usually helped people for free and sometimes still does, because homeopathy is not his actual livelyhood. He was registered with the SGZ (which isn`t obligatory in Holland, by the way) and our daughter has also qualifications for several professions (e.g. qualified teacher of English, accountant etc. and is registered with the SGZ as a qualified homeopath for animals (2 dipl.). Please feel free to call the SGZ any time you like !

Wim has had his name removed from 3 different  holistic websites after his retirement and didn`t have his own homeopathic website. I can give you the names of the websites if you want to !

If you send your telephone number in an e-mail we can make an appointment, but if you have seen all his qualifications we not only expect a full apology from you but a free dinner for two at a restaurant of our choice. Agreed ? 

If you really knew what kind of man Wim actually is and had read more of his posts you wouldn`t have made this silly mistake, because all his colleagues know he can avail himself of a very retentive memory and is specialised in many homeopathic subjects and greatly appreciated by many well known people or colleagues such as Prof. Rajendra, Dr. Mas, Gina Tyler, and many others. Colleagues always say he has a huge knowledge of homeopathy. He also was, for example Gina Tyler`s back up when she was in Indonesia during the Bali crisis to help her prescribing  for tropical disease etc. and in case she got stuck with any homeopathic problem or case.

Wim also used to be, and this is also known to many colleagues here,  a policeman/detective in the Hague and has a black belt of judo and taught judo to children.

So please think again before you slander anyone and in case you still have doubts please visit us to admire the diploma`s on the wall in his modest consultation room ! His name + full address are mentioned in the telephone directory. Many of his friends and colleagues here will be surprised, to put it mildly, that you wrote such a post about him and will without any hesitation vouch for him !

Ann  (Wim`s wife)

Professor Rajendra mentions in his signature that he`s a black belt karate and nobody has any problems with that and moreover he is a vey kind man. We are on a forum not in a prison ! And there used to be a Dr. working on this forum(I forget his name) who mentioned in his signature he was a Ninja ! So what ?

Moderators will correct us/them if this isn`t allowed !

So many countries, so many customs ! 

Ann

Hi Else,

Wim has been immensely helpful for innumerable animals online. I have never seen anybody doing such a hard volunteer job. I am trying to help stray animals in my home country while living in US, and it would not have been possible without Wim. Why? Because not a single request of prescription was refused! I order remedies according to his prescriptions and have seen miracles happenning! Paralysed dogs walking, hopeless animals recovering. He has an amazing knowledge of MM and veterinary homeopathy that covers almost everything. He is very careful with prescriptions and warns you a number of times for interactions etc.. And all is for free, he is basically sacrificing his own life to help animals/people! That, I think, is an essential part of being a professional and also a very thoughtful behaviour.

In my years of experience of dealing with stray animals and working with shelters, I come across almost all types of diseases, injuries etc.. It was not until I met Wim on his earlier forum that I can actually save them! I am serious! It was a hopeless struggle where the strays loose all the time before. Now we reversed it, thanks to Wim! I so strongly believe in his profession and capability of curing that I do not think twice.

Please take a look at other topics (and his forum). I find enough evidence there to decide that he is qualified. I also think it is not nice to throw such an insult in a public forum like this. I think you are intentionally trying to give harm to what he is doing... Which means also trying to give harm to all of us who work with him, or rely on his knowledge. That is why I am defending him and I think it is important for you to read about what others think..

First hand experience makes believers.. And I am a strong believer of him.

Regards,

Marin

Else,

I am not sure you are hitting the issue with all this sh…slinging.

Wim is obviously qualified, otherwise he would be mad to add this to his signature on a public forum!

But I wonder if you are not  simply missing the point.

Apart from the fact that Wim is a wonderful vet, he has helped a lot of animals out of their problems, done a lot for them which would otherwise have meant separation, euthanasia or simply a life of misery.  He has also spent a lot of time educating students like myself to prime and expert knowledge in homeopathic veterinary skills.  He is exceedingly generous with his time.

I don’t really think qualified vets would come and ask for his advice if he had not proven himself over and over again, they would be only too happy to be able to slander a homeopath, like so many others if they had been given the chance.

As things are, Wim is not only highly qualified, but an expert in this matter.

Also there is just one little thought I would like to add personally:  if I had a problem with an animal, I would rather deal with an unqualified, enthusiastic expert doing it for the love of the job, than a qualified, unmotivated one.

As we all know,  qualification does not rhyme with excellency as we all know.

In this case, not only is Wim qualified, but a very, very great man in the homeopathic world,  I think if you take a look at the forum on homeocurecenter.com where he was giving out advice before, it says it all.  The expert advice and the reaction of all when he chose to opt out.

Count your blessings and be honoured to know such a great man, rather than try and bring him down in front of everyone, because it is not going to work anyway.

Last thoughts on the very sly comment of “please ask your husband to stop sending me private messages”or whatever:  wim and ann work very closely together… I don’t know anything about their private life and it concerns only them, but from what I have been able to see, it would be rather strange to say the least, for wim to send you private messages by forum, where ann who is moderator could pick them up any time.

It sounds like you are trying to make even for an old quarrel you probably have with him.