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    Posted: 18 May 06 at 18:43
Got this one from another well known homeo forum.

Pleas vote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmpolls/index.html?
in_poll_id=14705&in_page_id=711

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 May 06 at 19:49

Good heavens!  It's 82% "Yes"!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 06 at 02:01

Hah, Homoeopathy is actually a lot more widely accepted (and respected) here Snoopy, which would account (for the most part anyway) for our differences in opinion regarding allopathy.

Over here it is not uncommon for an orthodox G.P to refer a patient to one of our Homoeopathic hospitals for conditions they cannot treat, the cost of which is actually funded by our government under our National Health System, as is the majority of the cost of the running of such hospitals (and always has been, earning Homoeopathy the accolade of the only other system of medicine accepted as being effective by our government).
This is largely due to the fact that Homoeopathy has been the preferred system of medical treatment of our Royal family, for many generations, the queen herself, if I remember rightly, being one of the patrons of our very own Homoeopathic hospital here in London. 
Also, as previously mentioned elsewhere, such doctors also hire in the help of 'alternative practitioners' (including us) to their own practices, and even the prescribing of Homoeopathic remedies is allowed under our N.H.S, which provides free healthcare to all, and free medication to those who cannot afford to pay, including our remedies!!

 
A very different state of affairs to those found in the U.S, wouldn't you say?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 06 at 09:22

Am I living in the same UK as you?

I find very few GPs refer to Homeopaths and if they do it is usually to a medical homeopath.

Homeopathy is very poorly understood by conventional medics.

I worked in the NHS for over 30 years and always found their attitude to homeopathy to be very condescending- usually putting it all down to the placebo effect!

Our position in the Uk is not helped by articles like the recent one in the Lancet either.

I think the only good thing when comparing the US and the UK is that at least Homeopathy is not illegal as it is in some states !!

Maybe I should buy myself some rose coloured specs !??



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 06 at 09:56

I would presume?

And I'm afraid I have found the contrary to be true. I have personally worked alongside orthodox doctors, albeit by recommendation of personal friends, also qualified in this field, and at the start of my exploration into medicine, I was also both sent to the RLHH, and referred to a private Homoeopath, all one has to do is ask.

I would agree that Homeopathy may be poorly understood by conventional practitioners, at the moment, but innovations such as the merging of the RLHH with the ULC, forming the first 'integrated medicine' hospital in G.B (and as far as I am aware, in Europe), not to mention the £20 million pound grant provided by the Government to do so, coupled with the fact orthodox Dr's are now, as stated above, allowed to call in the help of 'alternative' practitioners, and charge this to the NHS, should surely suggest things are improving?

You worked in the NHS for 30 years? Therein may lay the reason for your...'tainted view', I think maybe I too would become a little jaded under the same circumstances, especially as this change is still pretty much in it's infancy, and you would have seen little or no evidence of such things during your time working within the orthodox medical field. Again though, my experiences have always been good, even up to 18 years ago.

I have not read any recent articles in the Lancet, and to be honest I never pay that much attention to them anyway, the Lancet representing, as far as I am concerned, the last bastion of the more...pigheaded side of allopathy (not to mention our whole society). Personally I believe, as long as our present government remains in power, this side of allopathy will soon suffer the same fate as the upper echelons of the house of lords, and hereditary peers, it's just a question of time.

 

'Maybe I should buy myself some rose coloured specs !??'
Or maybe just shed a little of that cynicism. There's a whole new generation of orthodox practitioners, and indeed orthodox medicine out there, and we can either get carried along, or more importantly, help to steer this new flow, or get lost, and held back, by the bitter undercurrents.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 06 at 10:30

 

We'll just agree to differ then !?

Everything you mention sounds absolutely fantastic - but I'm sorry I've seen and heard it all before ! (or similar projects)

As far as I am aware drs have always been able to refer to Homeopaths?

Not that many did though- and as I say it was usually to medical Homeopaths via the Homeopathic hospitals.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 06 at 11:12

Dear Jacob,olly

Homeopathy is not illegal to use/practice in the USA,it is even covered under some health insurance . The conventional MD's that are also homeopaths do have a major problem regards their medical license,it can be taken away if a patient complains or files a lawsuit. Many conventional MD's i know  practice homeopathy  only 5%  the rest is allopathy,specially the ones in major hospitals. Their slant  on homeopathy i find 'jaded' with   allopathic reasoning,when it gets difficult (case is too complicated) they will send the patient to a pure classical homeopath....................or just end upgiving the patient an allopathic drug/surgery to palliate their illness.

All potency of homeopathic remedies from MT to LM to X to C to M and beyond ,nosodes,isodes are all legally sold here in the USA with no problems.

It's more often seen that in the other alternative healing like   chinese meds,ayurveda,herbalist,aromatherapist,kinesiologist,reflexo logist,cirop.,accup.,massage therapists that you will find homeopathts.

Specially here in california where the  previous governor of this state has allowed a special bill to be passed for complementary and alternative health care practicioners to practice legally.

But the fact is that allopathy is  more of a domitant force here in the usa,there are only a minimum % homeopaths compared to % allopaths.

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