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Topic: Seizures Posted: 25 May 06 at 17:30 |
I have a 4 1/2 year old shih tzu. He developed seizures in January of 2006. Here is the history of what has happened.
A * indicates a seizure
*Believe he had on in January 2006.
*March 1, 2006 2 am Gave him Rescue Remedy and he seemed to snap out of it a little. He went to the edge of the bed and just stared about an hour or so before he had the seizure. Gave a dose of Cuprum 200C.
*April 16 Seizures began at 5:30 and ended at 7:35. He had lots of multiple seizures. Every 10-15 min. and then around 30 min. was the last one. Each lasted a few minutes.
My dog, Shih Tzu, age 41/2 years old and is on a good diet,( Noah's Kingdom dried vegetables/organic, wellness dog food) has had seizures. First one in Jan. and then on March 1. I had been giving him Mag Phos. Cell Salt for about a month. Every day for 2 weeks and then down to 2x a week.
Last night he had a cluster of seizures about 8 of them. Lasting 3-5 min. over a 2 hour period. Foaming at the mouth, eyes fixed, feet flapping, trembling and twitching of body. He could bearly walk.
I first gave him Bach's Rescue Remedy. It didn't help at all during one of the seizures. Then one dose of Cuprum 200C. He proceeded then to have more. It didn't stop it at all.
*April 29, 2006 At 8:20am Harley had another seizure. I immediately gave him homeopathic liquid from allergicpet.com and it lessened the seizure. He had a few more and I kept giving him the liquid each time. He foamed at the mouth and once his legs began flapping when he was on his side. I have increased the pills today from 2 a day to 4 a day. Appetite has increased and he wants to go out a lot.
*May 11, 2006 Harley had another seizure at 3:30am. He jumped off the bed and then had a seizure and fell down the stairs. I gave him the homeopathic liquid several times. He defecated. I also later gave him Arnica 200C 2x. He had a cluster of seizures but not to the point of the first 2 he had. He foamed at the mouth firstly and had body shakes. He then had another with just foam coming from his mouth. (Looks like egg-whites) He drank water . Then went into another seizure with legs thrashing this time. I gave him afterward some Stramonium. Works on the brain. He was taken outside twice. He dirtied and wet. He did pace quite a bit for a period of time. Dazed. Drank a lot of water. Then he got tired and went to sleep around 5:15am. I ordered more of the homeopathic liquid and more pills.
May 14 Harley began humping Alvin’s foot and would bark when we told him no. He seemed more aggressive. This all happened at night around 8-9 pm His tongue seemed a little red. Gave him Belladona, then Bufo and then Artemisia. Seemed alright through the rest of the night.
May 16th Harley began humping Alvin’s leg and continuously barked when he was told not to hump.. He also kept humping his small pacifier toy. It began at 7:45 pm. After giving Belladonna 200C he did calm down about 10 minutes later and slept quietly.
I then gave him around 9pm Artemisa Vulgararius 6C.
May 17th Had a good day and evening.. I continued to give Belladonna 30C once around 7pm and then Artemisa Vul. 6C at 11:00 along with the regular pills 2 in the morning and 3 in the evening with meals. I then give him the homeopathic liquid 2x a day.
May 18th Gave the same regiment to Harley as above and will continue to do so,
May 19th Harley seemed a little rambunctious today. He played with his toys incessantly like he was driven to do this. Kept bringing his hamburger toy for me to throw and then his pacificer. This went on for hours. He’d eat a little and make me throw his toy. He always has done this but it was longer than usual. Today he received 2 doses of belladonna and then the usual.
*May 20th Early morning 4:45 am Harley had a seizure. It was different than the ones he had had. Not as bad. He has been sleeping at night in his house (cage) for the past three nights. He begins to sleep with us in our bed and then goes to the bathroom and then his house. I heard a lot of tongue noises, like when you are thirsty but you don’t have enough saliva to swallow. I checked on him and as he continued to be in his house the whole time he would shake his head continuously and there was drool-foam coming from his mouth so I knew he was in seizure. I gave him the liquid homeopathy. He had a blank stare but stayed in his house until it was over. He then paced all around the upstairs. He lifted his leg and urinated on the side of the furniture. He went into the bathroom and defecated on the rug. He paced around smelling everything. I gave him Bufo 6C. He wanted to go downstairs after about 20 -30 min. if even that long. I put him on a lease and walked him in our backyard. He was thirstless. Usually he is so thirsty. He was also very hungry. For the first time he wanted to eat. I gave him Belladonna 30C. because he was again wanting to play and run around constantly. He ate his food along with the 2 pills I give him in the am. He finally calmed down. He could also climb the stairs and go down without me having to pick him up. No twitching or falling to one side. 6:00am now we are going to go back to bed.
May 24th In the afternoon Harley began humping Alvin’s leg and playing tough. I gave him Bufo. He seemed to calm down and a few hours later again he began humping and barking at him. Gave Bufo again. Around 5:00 pm I gave him Belladonna. He was outside and tried to hump a third time. He began chasing Hannah and aggressively playing with her. Yes, he has done that before, but I decided to give him it anyway. Again it calmed him down. He is eating well. Let’s see what tonight brings. I might even try Oenanthe to see if that helps. (Seizures violent generalized tonic – clonic convulsions.(Grand Mal) Some literature shows the power of Oenanthe to cure convulsions originality from head injury while also correcting mental deterioration or mania symptons which accompanied the disorder. Convulsions worse duringsleep. Froth develops at mouth during convulsions. Countenance livid eyes fixed pupils dilated)
Gave and noticed no difference. Gave later on that eve. Belladonna 200C. Usual Artemisa Vulgararius 6C. and liquid homeopathic. He went into the bathroom to sllep during the night and I gave more liquid. He went to sleep on our bed again. He then began at 2:15 am licking his tonue, like dry mouth, and involuntary scratching of 2 of his paws on the bed. Gave him one more dose of liquid and he slept through the night.
May 25th He ate great this morning. Tried to play humpty-dumpty with hamburger (his toy). He continued this around 5pm and continued to play with his toy until I finally removed it 6:20. Gave him a dose of Belladonna 200C.
Is there anything that could cure these Grand Mal or Petit Mal seizures? Is there anything else I need to do or give to my pet? I am exhaused from doing all kinds of research online and looking in the materia medica. The things I read are mostly about people.
I would appreciate any help!
Susan
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Posted: 26 May 06 at 13:47 |
Hi Susan,
First off all please see a homeopathic vet!! You can start Sulfur C200 1 dose every 2 weeks, this helps to support the recovery for animals whom suffer from seizures. For the remedies you are using : I would have tried Cuprum C30 first, this is one of the most importent remedies in the treatment of seizures.
Mirjam
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Posted: 26 May 06 at 17:40 |
Mirjam, that was the first remedy I tried. My neutered dog, Harley continued to have seizures. I didn't have 30C so I gave him 200C every day for a week. He then had a cluster of seizures.
I am in the process of moving from Long Island, NY to Wake Forest, NC, so I can't use a homeopathic vet. I did go to one when Harley was a puppy. I used one in Huntington, Long Island and found out he didn't have a license to practice homeopathy. Many poor reports. Now we have zero.
I am trying to actively keep this under control until I can see a holistic vet. I couldn't find a homeopathic one in Raleigh, NC, but did find a holistic one. http://www.bowmananimalhospital.com/
I won't be moving until the end of June. I need to try and control the seizures because I realize the damage that it does.
I gave a dose of Sulfur 200C in the afternoon along with Cuprum 200C in the morning. Tonight I will give Oenathe 30C in the evening before we retire to bed.
I am so concerned. Harley is like one of my babies. I have the daughter from Harley. She is 3 years old. Hannah. I so love my babies that every night I stay up listening to them literally breathe. I am hoping that Hannah doesn't come down with seizures. They both had all their puppy shots. I don't believe in giving them shots, but in August I broke down and gave them all their booster shots over a 2 month period. My son was getting married 5 1/2 hours from where I live and I needed to board my dogs. ( I believe I gave cuprum after all the shots to both dogs) I have never, ever boarded my dogs. But this time I had no choice. I will not be giving them any more shots. Therefore I will ever leave them again anywhere where shots are required! So...guess I won't travel anyplace!
Is there anything else I can do? I do use Belladonna when I notice a red tongue or his humping my husband's leg. (30C) I am constantly looking for any odd behaviors so it will alert me to his next seizure. He does get up in the middle of the night and scratch the rug in the bathroom. He gets restless around 3-4 am and sometimes stares. This doesn't always happen, but it is a behavior that I do notice.
I can't thank you enough for your reply. I am at my wits end. So glad I found this H - thread.
Susan
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Posted: 26 May 06 at 19:33 |
Dear Susan
You are correct about the shots. They will cause seizures. These toxin need to be removed and no more shots given,its so inhumane for a allopathic vet to give vaccines. Once they have these shots any thing can trigger the seizures example the use of antibiotics. Anything with mercury in it . The grass he walks on might have herbasides/pesticides in it,this will also cause seizures once they have been vaccinated. To put it mildly once a pet or human is vaccinated they are in trouble regards their immune system. You might want to contact wim pardaan in holland via email he does consultation in homeopathy just for animals ......Mirjam might know where to contact him.....Groetjes mirjam.
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 02:02 |
Hi Susan,
I think the 200C is to high and makes the seizures more frequent. High potencies like that you don't use daily !!!!
Go to this site http://www.homeocurecenter.com/index.php?s=71572528058493430 c3c73eaca27c044&showforum=14
and copy paste your whole story . I'm just started as a natural animal health adviser and find this to urgent to discus this on line. I do know that you mustn't use so many remedies in high potencies, they work very deep and long. If you do 'doctor' yourself don't go higher than a C30 potency.
good luck, Mirjam
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 08:29 |
It seems that I can't paste into the forum page. I can only type! So it will take a while to do.
As far as potencies go...when I was in a study group from the NCH I was told to use 200C. So that is why I have tons of potencies in 200. I guess I need to order some 30C. Would you suggest some others to order in that potency. Recently after all the reading I have done online, I have begun to purchase 30C or less.
Thanks, again for all your help.
Susan
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 08:49 |
Hi Susan,
I have a homeopathic kit from Helios in 30C which is very handy 
https://www.helios.co.uk/kits.html
They deliver world wide I think. I will follow your case on the other forum.
Mirjam
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 08:51 |
Gina,
Thank you so much for a reply. I have never used antibiotics on my dogs nor does the grass he walks on have herbasides/pesticides in it. I have a fenced in back yard. I just can't imagine the "why" to seizures. It came on suddenly in January (once) and has seemed to escalate since. I am hoping that everything I am doing will at least prolong the next seizure. I am keeping a close eye on him and his behaviors.
Mirjam, has been corresponding with me and is extremely helpful, so far. I can't even begin to thank him and you.
My Harley thanks you both!!
Susan
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 11:23 |
its the shots/vaccines that are most likely the cause of the seizures. The "other things i mentioned re-activate the toxins of ................the shots...............
I see it happening in many toddlers that were vaccinated as babies.
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 20:16 |
Gina, it is so sad to see and continue to hear about seizures in both animals and children. It is becoming all to frequent. You are so right.
Susan
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Posted: 27 May 06 at 20:25 |
Mirjam, I have a homeopathic kit from DOLISOS in the 30C. It isn't very extensive. (48 remedies) I have a least 100 more that I keep in a container. As I said I was trained in using mostly 200C. (Trained meaning I took classes. Beginning -Middle and Advanced Classes some 15 years ago.) I am self taught otherwise and do extensive research. I, by no means, know a lot about homeopathy. I just do a lot of reading and I am a member of the NCH. There are so many different schools of thought on potencies and even remedies to use. I read the Materia Medica by Boericke and useDesktop Guide to Keynote and Confirmatory Symptons by Morrison and The Homeopathic Medical Repertory by Murphy.
It is so much work and reading. The thing being when you deal with an animals they can't tell you their state of mind, or if their throat hurts or stomach has cramps. It seems like a guess.
I was also told that if you use the wrong remedy, nothing will happen. Just wait a few hours or even a day and then give another remedy. From Europe to America, it seems the school of thought varies.
Interesting talking to you.
Susan
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Posted: 29 May 06 at 06:10 |
Hi Susan,
This is (what I find) the most difficult part in homeopathy. I don't go higher than a C30 . I also try to keep the hahneman ruel in mind: So 1 dose and then see what's happening. I do noticed that a lot of homeopaths work differently. We keep learning and I feel you have to pick up info from everywere and than experience your self what you feel/think is the right way.
Good luck with your dog, I will keep following the results on the other side 
Mirjam
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Posted: 29 May 06 at 10:30 |
You are 1000% correct, Mirjam. I am learning and now ordering lower doses to see what's happening. I give my husband 200C (Arnica, Ruta, and Rhododendron) He calls this his "cocktail". If it wasn't for this he wouldn't be able to stand and walk the way he does. He has been taking this for years in that dosage. Sometimes he can take it up to 2-3x a day. No adverse affects either. So you are right when you say every individual or Classical Homeopath uses different doses. It is up to them and the reaction of the patient.
Have a good day.
Susan
PS I will be moving in about 3 weeks so my computer will be off by June 19th. I don't know when I will be back online. I did order a nosode. Let's see how long it takes from UK.
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Posted: 29 May 06 at 20:09 |
Dear Susan
Arn-ruta-rhod 200C a few times per day for YEARS! OH MY GOODNESS.......That is not homeopathic prescribing. You have him on palliation not a healing. No cure is happening. Why not do the case properly via a classical homeopath. Taking 3 remedies at that same potency for years is useless (only temp. palliation) What was the reason of his discomfort/onset/cause?
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Posted: 30 May 06 at 09:19 |
My husband couldn't walk for a year. He finally had surgery. He had back and neck surgery. He also had dropped foot. He doesn't take these remedies every day, but when needed. It seems in the summer he needs it more. He gets pulling a tightness in his back which affects his stomach (pulling leads to distension of) which leads him to going to bed to try to rest the muscles and his pain. Muscous also plays a role and did I mention a hernia!
My husband is 72 years old and refuses to see a doctor. I do not tell him to take these remedies, he does when he feels the need. It relieves most of the pain and discomfort he experiences.
We added rho. when he was so sick and couldn't get out of bed after a long drive to Maine. It was change of weather, I think. So he discovered that if he takes these remedies, not always in combination, he can get through the day. In the winter he doesn't have as many problems. But, we are moving to North Carolina and it should be interesting to see if he experiences the same feelings.
I don't think there is a cure for what he has because it does change depending on the weather, environment (ozone), level of activity, etc. He has a plate in his neck and is very lucky to be walking. My husband had so much wrong with him that life is important to the both of us. (Also had knee surgery). I gave him homeopathy before and after surgery and the nurses couldn't believe that he didn't need pain medication and his stitches healed so quickly.
He has had much sucess and therefore he won't let me tell him NOT to do this. He seems to know his body and he tells me he can feel the remedies working in a very short amount of time.
At this stage of the game...whatever works!
Thanks again,
Susan
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Posted: 30 May 06 at 11:46 |
Dear Susan
Yes i see your point, Regards weather related pains and aggr. that usually points to rhus tox (not always) i see this alot in RA patients. Right befor a rain storm appears,right before a full moon.......etc. Have you looked into Rhus T.? For a palliation.....................
My own mother is 70 yrs old suffered extremely from RA for 25 yrs. With the use of homeopathy (proper casetaking ) giving her acutes,and her constitutional remedy did heal her 100% of all pains. These so called incurables are only a stubling block for allopathy,yet if the patient is willing 100% to use detoxing herbs/vitamins.....homeopathy overhaul their diet habits, there can be results even for the elderly. My mother is verry strong and healthy at 70,no meds,and loads of energy. Homeopathy has taken her chronic RA and stoped it right in it's tracks.
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Posted: 30 May 06 at 14:52 |
Mirjam, my husband doesn't have RA. This is all from injuries and surgery. For Full Moon he takes LUNA 30X. A few days before and after the full moon. Rhus Tox. didn't seem to help him. I did give it to him though. That was a long time ago, maybe I should try it again.
We only do homeopathy in our house...even my dogs. But...I am guilty though...I take blood pressure meds. (Altace - 10mg.) I have tried some homeopathic remedies and I can't find one that will keep it at bay. (Veratrum V., Lycopus V) I need to begin to take Cholesterinum (6C) also. With the move and all I am concentrating more on Harley, my doggy, Hannah (the female..healthy so far!) and my husband who is doing a lot of bending and packing boxes. I worry about him.
I guess I forget myself and take care of those who I love dearly!!
My mother had RA. Years ago they put her on Gold for RA. It was experimental and did lots of damage. It affected her hands and joints. Made them narled. She had some many problems resulting from RA. She had a hip replacement in Hospital For Special Surgery in the late 70's then a knee replacement in the early 80's. She was bed ridden for years with this horrible disease, (This is before I knew homeopathy.) I miss her so much. She went into the hospital for a fractured hip, she had fallen, and never came out alive. I know the hospital did something wrong and I couldn't prove it. @All the doctors had a different story. When I finally confronted them, they told me to wait. It seems they all got together and then invited me in. Miraculiouly all the stories coincided with one another. She was suppose to go home in a few days! That was over 10 years ago.
Enough of my rambling...I hope your mom is feeling better. She has a wonderful son, YOU, to help her get through those painful days.
Susan
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Posted: 30 May 06 at 18:01 |
Sorry Gina, I misread who wrote the all of the replies. I guess packing has really gotten to me! Sorry, so sorry!!!
Your mom has a wonderful daughter!!! I wish I was as good a daughter. Just have to live with what was.
Again, I apologize.
Susan
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Posted: 31 May 06 at 10:44 |
Dear Susan
No need to say sorry,i was a bit confused reading your post. Yes to see our loved ones suffer so much takes a toll even on the ones taking care of them.
My mother was under care of many 'RA Specialists'.....ha.....what a joke that was!!!!!!! She also took the Gold injections like your mother did. It was like watching someone die right in front of you,more pain/extreme adverse effects/extreme loss of weight+strenth,almost immobile.
To see her now after taking only homeopathics is like looking at a totally different person. I take her with me all over this planet she keeps up,more energy than me. It makes me so angry that sceptics say homeopathy is placebo/does not work,in my mothers case her own allopathic RA MD wants to study her cure he is so baffled by her recovery. While his entire load of patients die an early death of all the complications due to the intake of toxic allopathics.
Gina Tyler
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