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Topic: Rabies Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 16:08 |
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Let us now look at the benefits of allopathy. Just some random info provided by the FDA.
Moreover, the Food and Drug Administration has received over 40,000 reports detailing adverse effects related to Prozac.
Better watch out when you go see that psychiatrist, Alex.
Many of the gun-related massacres that have made the headlines over
the past decade have a common thread: they were perpetrated by people
taking Prozac, Zoloft, Luvox, Paxil, or a related drug. A
documented side effect of these drugs --– known clinically as selective
serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) --– is akathisia, or physical and
mental agitation. Dr. Whitaker says.
"akathisia is to violence what a match is to gasoline. And this
condition has been reported in a significant number of Prozac users."
Wow! And all these are NORMAL PEOPLE, because they did not take homoeopathy.
‘Unfortunately, pharmaceutical companies rarely conduct clinical
trials that fairly and objectively compare other companies' drugs
against their own. And the FDA doesn't conduct such trials either, because the agency is not in the business of doing medical research – only reviewing the results submitted by pharmaceutical companies.
Nice an ethical, right Alex? Simply normal people, because they don't use homoeopathy.
"since the early 1990s, ACE inhibitors and calcium channel blockers had
captured maybe a third or maybe 40 percent of the market" for treating
high blood pressure, cutting into the prescriptions for older drugs
that had a long track record of effectiveness and that were much
cheaper.
Oh yeah, it were only homoeopathic doctors and their "industry" that were in it for the money.
"If you eliminated all the ACE inhibitors and calcium antagonists
[calcium channel blockers] for the first-line treatment of
hypertension," says Furberg, and if patients were put on diuretics, "we would avert maybe 60,000 events per year – 60,000 heart failures or strokes.
But homoeopaths are mystical schizoids, says Alex. The above is a sane procedure, of course. And tomorrow pigs will fly too, and the moon is made of cheese.
"Each of the newer drugs had significantly higher rates of one or more forms of cardiovascular disease," the ALLHAT team said.
"Sales of Norvasc, the world's largest-selling medicine for
hypertension and angina and the fourth-largest selling pharmaceutical
of any kind grew 8% … to $931 million in the first quarter, compared to
the same period in 2001."
Financial Ties
‘When Rich heard who the authors of the editorial were – Dr. JoAnn
Manson and Dr. Gerald Faich – he realized immediately that both had
financial ties to the drug companies that were making and/or selling
Redux. And both had done work with those companies specifically in
connection with Redux.
"This was one of the greatest scandals that ever hit The New England Journal of Medicine," says Rich.
"In recent years the pharmaceutical industry has been exposed as a
multi-trillion dollar ‘investment business with disease’ the future of
which is dependent on the continuation and expansion of diseases.
At the same time, scientific advances in non-patentable natural health
offer effective, safe and affordable alternatives to the multi-trillion
dollar market of patented drugs."
(Matthias Rath, M.D.)
"The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the
elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These
natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of
choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political
and media opposition of the world’s largest investment industry. To
protect the strategic development of its investment business against
the threat from effective, natural and non-patentable therapies, the
pharmaceutical industry has – over an entire century – used the most
unscrupulous methods:
“Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is through
global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread lies
about the alleged side effects of natural substances – molecules that
have been used by Nature for millennia.
“Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural health
therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed its
lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading drug
export nations."
(Dr. Rath Health Foundation)
Oh, those evil schizoid homoeopaths! How naughty!
Of course Big Pharma does not want you to know that there are better alternatives.
“The medical establishment works closely with the drug multinationals
whose main objective is profits and whose worst nightmare would be an
epidemic of good health. Lots of drugs MUST be sold. In order to
achieve this, anything goes: lies, fraud, and kickbacks. Doctors are
the principal salespeople of the drug companies. They are rewarded with
research grants, gifts, and lavish perks. The principal buyers are the
public – from infants to the elderly – who MUST be thoroughly medicated
and vaccinated...at any cost!
Why do the authorities forbid alternative medicine? Because they are
serving the industry, and the industry cannot make money with herbs,
vitamins, and homeopathy.
You see that, Alex? I shall repeat it so you cannot miss it. The industry cannot make money with herbs,
vitamins, and homeopathy. But of course, THE HOMOEOPATHIC INDUSTRY IS ONLY IN IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY
Alex, how much money do they pay you for spreading misinformation and outlight lies? Enough? Have you become a millionaire yet? Huh? I bet you don't even dare to asnwer this question truthfully. Your posts give the impression you are just a cheap shill for Big Pharma.
They cannot patent natural remedies. That is
why they push synthetics. They control medicine, and that is why they
are able to tell medical schools what they can and cannot teach. They
have their own sets of laws, and they force people into them. That is a
mafia.”
The Medical Mafia
Guylaine Lanctot, M.D is the author of ‘The Medical Mafia: How To Get Out of It Alive and Take Back Our Health and Wealth.’
‘According to a set of essays published in the Public Library of
Science Medicine, drug companies are systematically inventing
non-existent diseases, or exaggerating minor ones, in order to sell
more of their products. The practice turns healthy people into patients
and places many of them at risk of medically induced harm.
Failures to test
• Some drug companies go so far as to design the ‘clinical experiment’,
write the testing physician’s reports and then pay him for the use of
his name.
• During the past few years it has been reported that cancer of the
vagina – ordinarily an exceedingly rare type of cancer – has been
detected in almost 100 young girls, whose mothers had been given
Stilbestrol to prevent an apparently imminent spontaneous abortion. The
first use of the drug for this purpose dates back to 1946. In 1953 two
controlled trials demonstrated its complete lack of efficacy on the
miscarriage. Yet the director of the Clinical Centre of the National
Institute of Health testified that in the late 1940’s, the 1950’s and
1960’s, without any proof of benefit, thousands of women underwent
Stilbestrol therapy.
• The increase in the use of drugs for both short-term and long-term
treatment during the past decades has led to a corresponding increase
in concern about their potential for inducing serious illnesses –
illnesses that are potentially life-threatening or otherwise produce
substantial incapacity, disability or death.
• Dr. Ley, Goddard’s immediate successor at the helm of the Food and
Drug Administration, told at a hearing before the US Senate of one spot
check, which turned up the case of the assistant professor of medicine
who had reputedly tested 24 drugs for 9 different companies. ‘Patients
who died while on clinical trials were not reported to the sponsor, an
audit revealed. Dead people were listed as subjects of testing.
• ‘People reported as subjects of testing were not in the hospital at
the time of the tests. Patient consent forms bore dates indicating they
were signed by the subjects after the subjects died.’
• He also reports that in studies conducted by one commercial
drug-testing firm, ‘patients who died, left the hospital or dropped out
of the study were replaced by other patients in the tests without
notification in the records. Over 40 people reported as participants in
those studies were either dead or not in the hospital at the time of
testing and during the entire study.’
Scientific Malfeasance
However, this blog is not so much about financial malfeasance as it is about scientific malfeasance.
Another little fact is that in the USA alone, yearly 3/4 of a million die due to mistakes in prescription by those glorious allopaths.
3/4 million dead, on 300million inhabitants. In other words, almost 1
in very 300. At a population of 6.5billion, that makes for roughly 20million deaths worldwide by allopathy.
Every year!
From mistakes alone!
Impressive!
A group of researchers meticulously reviewed the statistical evidence
and their findings are absolutely shocking. These researchers have
authored a paper titled “Death by Medicine” that presents compelling
evidence that today’s system frequently causes more harm than good.
1. This fully referenced report shows the number of people having in-hospital, adverse reactions to prescribed drugs to be 2.2 million per year in the USA.
2. The number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections is 20 million per year.
3. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million per year.
4. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million per year.
5. The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the allopathic medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the US. (By contrast, the
number of deaths attributable to heart disease in 2001 was 699,697,
while the number of deaths attributable to cancer was 553,251.5) Incidently, it must also be noted, that those deaths show the inability to cure both heart disease and cancer. They may blame the disease, but by doing so, they only blame themselves as incompetent to deal with them. The facts speak for themselves.
If we would add all those mistakes, just for the sake of it - unnecessary means you made a mistake - we come to the astonishing total of 38.6 million mistakes. That is one about every 10th diseased person on the total population. In the USA alone.
In any population the percentage susceptible to diseases lies at about
16%. That is, if they are reasonably healthy. Those 38.6% of mistakes
form a part of the total number. On the total population it is 7.77%
On the 16% - assuming Americans to be as healthy as other people (see, i am generous) - we come to 48 million sick yearly in the US.
Only 10 million of them - even less but again, I am generous - come through relatively unscathed.
4/5th of all patients end up being the victims of mistakes.
That is even MORE impressive!
But Alex wants us to believe that Homoeopaths are evil schizoid people. That is a pretty schizoid statement to make, after seeing all this evidence. So Alex, please go and seek psychiatric help, since you refuse to take the advise of homoeopaths. As you said:
In this forum I personally I got a lot of misadvice but I was smart enough not to follow .
We just have seen how smart you really are. So I give you the advise to go to an allopathic psychiatrist - exactly what you want to hear. You would probably consider this the best advise you ever got from a homoeopath on this forum.
Regards, Kaviraj.
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Posted: 13 Oct. 09 at 16:55 |
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A Sanatorium for Overworked Coincidences
And here is another bit of SCIENTIFIC MALFEASANCE.
After all Alex, you asked for it, with your inflammatory language and your gross insult to every homoeopath on this forum and all those who are not even here to defend themselves against you outright lies and false claims. Shame on you, to the 100th power.
The FDA, which is funded in part by the very companies it oversees, IS ALSO FUNCTIONING AS A REVOLVING DOOR FOR
LEGISLATORS-CUM-OVERSEERS-CUM-LOBBYISTS-CUM-POLITICIANS-CUM-INDUSTRY
LEADERS; and, perhaps most shocking, of members of the medical
profession and its institutions.
One way of determining the truth of some assertions regarding this
conundrum is to follow the money – qui bono, who benefits? In the case
at hand, the only beneficiary is the Medical-Pharmaceutical Industrial
Empire; the Sickness Industry.
AND OH, THOSE EVIL, FALSE, CONNIVING, SCHIZOID HOMOEOPATHS!!! THEY ARE SOOOOO BAD! They are only in it to make a lot of money, is it not? Right, Alex?
Writing about that subject would be finished in one sentence: Billions
of $$ in grants, billions of $$ more in sales for useless drugs and all
the attention and glamour they would want. Just look at the evidence
presented above.
However, as we said above, this blog is not so much about financial malfeasance as it is about scientific malfeasance.
Collusion & Monopoly Law
Jonathan Quick, director of Essential Drugs and Medicines Policy for
the World Health Organization (WHO) wrote in a recent WHO Bulletin:
"If clinical trials become a commercial venture in which
self-interest overrules public interest and desire overrules science,
then the social contract which allows research on human subjects in
return for medical advances is broken. When the boundaries between
industry and academic medicine become as blurred as they are now, the
business goals of industry influence the mission of medical schools in
multiple ways.”
Now that is all done by the sane people in the "NORMAL HEALTH INDUSTRY", is it not, Alex? Even the WHO condemns it but they must be schizoids too, right, Alex??
A Faustian Bargain
She did not discount the benefits of research but said a Faustian
bargain now existed between medical schools and the pharmaceutical
industry.
This is a much more serious subject than mere financial fraud of
whatever magnitude, because it concerns fraud with the health of every
individual on the planet. The Enron scandal with its billons lost, was mere peanuts compared to scientific health-fraud.
Enron affected some very rich and many ‘poor’ shareholders, but medical
scientific fraud puts everyone at risk and costs billions more in lost
man-hours alone. Then we do not yet count the lives that are lost
because of it.
Remember that thoroughness leaves out counter-arguments. Anyone else,
we advise to be prepared for a challenge to the intellect and take a
cuppa for strength.
A member of the orthodox medical establishment is advised to make the sign of the crucible – or whatever the devotees of the Church of Medical Science do when meeting New Correlates.
Something You Should Know About Profits, Vaccines and Tort Reform
Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has
not only given immunity to the makers of Tamiflu and Relenza for
injuries stemming from their use against swine flu, she has granted
immunity to future swine flu vaccines and 'any associated adjuvants.'
The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine campaign
against a new swine flu, thousands filed claims contending they
suffered side effects from the shots. This time around, they will have
no recourse. New technologies being used for vaccines are raking in profits for these companies IN THE MULTIPLE BILLIONS.
But wait a minute, was that not what Alex claimed the homoeopaths are doing? So Alex, where is YOUR PROOF? I have given ample proof that it is exactly the other way around as what YOU claim. Can you finally quote something to substantiate your false claims and outright lies? I bet a million dollars you cannot - after all, i can afford it, after having swindled innocent people out of their money with schizoid money grabbing scemes, is it not, Alex? Man, you have completely lost the plot - if ever you had one. You don't play with a full deck and are quite a few floors short of a skyscaper.
Regards, Kaviraj.
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Posted: 26 Oct. 09 at 18:09 |
Dear Kaviraj
I am behind you 100%,fully agree with everything you have posted,I really dont understand what the confusion here is?
Allopathic and homeopathic are 180 Degree's the opposite direction in cure!(try to google the two words in its latin origin)
Yes it is that Black and white,you know it and I know it,why dont some of us posting at Hpathy know this?........................the answer is posted below-
And lets not forget this important link to "what really is Allopathic Modern medicine?"
www.whale.to/
The answer to my question:
once and allopath always an allopath
Please read on:
"Despite the tendency of doctors to call modern medicine an 'inexact science', it is more accurate to say there is practically no science in modern medicine at all. Almost everything doctors do is based on a conjecture, a guess, a clinical impression, a whim, a hope, a wish, an opinion or a belief. In short, everything they do is based on anything but solid scientific evidence.
Thus, medicine is not a science at all, but a belief system. Beliefs are held by every religion, including the Religion of Modern Medicine." Robert Mendelsohn MD
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you may feel gratefull that homeopathy survived the attempts of allopaths to destroy it- MARK TWAIN
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Posted: 26 Oct. 09 at 18:12 |
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Ah Gina,
those sceptics will never learn. That is the last i say about it.
Regards, Kaviraj.
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Posted: 26 Oct. 09 at 18:18 |
Aconite posted this:"“ Profile of Homeopathic Group Practice” …………..In cases where homeopathy does not give results, they will, in addition, use allopathic medicines”.
my reply:
Who are these Homeopathic group Practice members? You have got to be joking right!
In my oppinion,it is exactly the sort of saying that comes out of the mouths of an Allopath,NEVER A CLASSICAL HOMEOPATH who uses homeopathy 90-100% of his practice.
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Gina here is one simple question for you : A mother with 12 old child who suffer from diabetes and need insulin injections comes to you .
What you will say to her about these injections ?
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We will repair the islands of Langerhans in the pancreas by the appropriate remedy and abolish the insulin injections.
Significant majority of Russian homeopathy critics are giants in their own eyes but dwarfs in appropriate understanding/
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Posted: 02 Nov. 09 at 17:00 |
ALEX posted:"Gina here is one simple question for you : A mother with 12 old child who suffer from diabetes and need insulin injections comes to you . What you will say to her about these injections ?..................................................."
My reply to Alex:
a good question but this subject has already been covered at hpathy.com-
so i will keep it short-
All parents have a FREEWILL to choose the methods of threatment Alex.
If they come to me its obvious there is a desire to obtain a Holistic "alternative" homeopathic solution to their ailment.
Most often these people suffer from allopathic miss use and iatrogenic secondary symptoms cause by western meds,thus seeking another form of healing that might work for them.
It is NOT I who has to say ANYTHING,
these people ALREADY know allopathics do not work
that is why a search for another type of medicine that does work.
Actions speak louder than words Alex.
Homeopaths do NOT need to trump up their methods of healing
(no need to spend Billions of dollars per year on advertising like allopathy does),
the remedy actions speak for themself.
Homeopathy always works
Its the Homeopath who faulters not the remedies.
Are we not talking about Rabies here? Why change the subject Alex? How is this related?Rabies/Diabetes?????????????????????????????? Did I miss something?Please start another thread if you want to know about diabetes and homeopathy-Or perhaps type your request in the searchbox,this subject has already been discussed here at HPATHY.com
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Posted: 03 Nov. 09 at 00:05 |
Gina , you avoid to answering my direct question . This is very tipical for some forum members ...
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Posted: 03 Nov. 09 at 12:15 |
Alex
You might want to Re read my reply.
I took plenty of time to answer your question .
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ALEX posted:"Gina here is one simple question for you : A mother with 12 old child who suffer from diabetes and need insulin injections comes to you . What you will say to her about these injections ?..................................................."
My reply to Alex:
a good question but this subject has already been covered at hpathy.com-
so i will keep it short-
All parents have a FREEWILL to choose the methods of threatment Alex.
If they come to me its obvious there is a desire to obtain a Holistic "alternative" homeopathic solution to their ailment.
Most often these people suffer from allopathic miss use and iatrogenic secondary symptoms cause by western meds,thus seeking another form of healing that might work for them.
It is NOT I who has to say ANYTHING,
these people ALREADY know allopathics do not work
that is why a search for another type of medicine that does work.
Actions speak louder than words Alex.
Homeopaths do NOT need to trump up their methods of healing
(no need to spend Billions of dollars per year on advertising like allopathy does),
the remedy actions speak for themself.
Homeopathy always works
Its the Homeopath who faulters not the remedies.
Procede with a full casetaking-
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Gina , IS it possible to create good medical system based on homeopathy only ?
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Posted: 07 Nov. 09 at 11:14 |
The Ever Present Truth of Homeopathy
Alex the answer is in the article
the last paragraph says;''In time to come we will see that mechanical, chemical, surgical or any other form of palliative approach as routine practice leads to chaos, whether it be social, financial or medical. We can freely accept the offering of science to meet the needs of our day, but when it comes to treatment of the sick there is, in my opinion, nothing to equal the wisdom, which has accumulated in our materia medica during the years from the time of Hahnemann...........................................".
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Thanks , Gina , but I prefer to read your personal answer and in one sentence .
Brevity is a sister of a talent .
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Posted: 07 Nov. 09 at 13:01 |
alex its not the first time that this type of cases comes to us....question is what we can do to help the patient....if you cannot...honestly refer him or her..
if you can do help him/her...
many incurable cases get cured by the use of right homoeopathic remedy....and many trivial cases can remain status quo or get worsenned by un homoeopathic remedy...
question is to what youor we can do to help our patient by use of our method...
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Piyush , it is not a direct answer .
Could effective health care be based on homeopathy or speaking more generally on alternative medicine only ?
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Alex,
Could effective health care be based on homeopathy or speaking more generally on alternative medicine only ?
Not only could but should, and is quite capable, unlike allopathy if you have taken note of everything posted on the useless allopathic bs that is sold to us as science, but whicjh does not even have the smell of science.
And please Alex, do not act as if you talk science when you ignore what has been said about allopathy. That is prentending you truly want to know, while ignoring the posts that tell you you are plain wrong
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Lets put it this way-
In 2006, the world spent $643 billion on allopathic-pharmaceuticals.
Where are the cures?
• There are no pharmaceutical cures for cancer. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for heart disease. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for diabetes. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for kidney disease. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for depression. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for liver disease. • There are no pharmaceutical cures for Alzheimer's disease.
... in fact, if you add it all up, the pharmaceutical industry is the biggest rip-off in the history of medicine!
The world spends nearly a trillion dollars a year on pharmaceuticals now, and yet there hasn't been a single cure found by the drug industry for any major disease or health condition.
Not a single cure.
Where is the cure for cancer? For diabetes? For heart disease?
Alternative/holistic medicine(homeopathy included) offers cures for all incurables.
You can reverse diabetes through simple changes in diet and exercise.
You can reverse heart disease with nutritional strategies such as shifting to a plant-based diet.Homeopathy has a cure data history of 200+yrs on record.See my post at hpathy "curedatabase"-many cases listed.
Pharmaceuticals can cure none of these things, even after trillions of dollars have been spent trying to "find cures."
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What do you mean by cure ?
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So in ideal word only "alternative" medicine should be allowed ?
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Posted: 08 Nov. 09 at 15:50 |
Originally posted by AlexS
What do you mean by cure ?
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Did you have your extra bowl of stupid this morning? 1. The physician’s high and only mission is to heal the sick, to cure as it is termed. 2. The highest ideal of cure is rapid, gentle and permanent restoration of health or removal and annihilation of the disease in its whole extent, whether mental, emotional or physical, in the shortest, most reliable and most harmless way and following easily understandable principles.How many times do you need to be told what cure is? How many times have i posted this for your convenience? How many times have you refused to read and come with inane comments? Are you truly stu*id and do you not just act like that deliberately? Which would be just as stu*id? When are you finally going to use that brain that was put inside your head?
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