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    Posted: 20 March 09 at 07:39
we cannot rely on homoeopathic medicines only.

Rahul, spoken by someone who does not trust his remedies? Or knows too little?
We can always rely on homoeopathic remedies. They are your best friends that NEVER let you down.
If they seem to do, it is your own fault and NEVER the fault of homoeopathy.

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ALEX

‘We love to read a book which we never read before. We are anxious to gather whatever information is contained in it and with such acquirement our curiosity stops. This mode of study prevails amongst a great number of readers, who are great men in their own estimation as well as in the estimation of those who are of their own stamp. In fact, most readers are mere repositories of facts and statements made by other people. But this is not study. The student is to read the facts with a view to create and not with the object of fruitless retention. Students, like satellites, should reflect whatever light they receive from authors and teachers and not imprison the facts and thoughts just as the Magistrates imprison the convicts in the jail!.’
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ALEX, HERE IS SOMETHING MORE TO PONDER.

There is also the shallow critic, who takes into account what suits his shallow investigation, often designed to deride different paradigms from his own. This is the very thing he deems he is supposed to do. Both the useless student and the shallow critic are the enemies of progress. Progress means elimination and new acceptance, while holding on to the laws and principles. These, the useless student and the shallow critic will denounce with all their might. From this attitude come sterile experiments and uneventful results.

‘These are shallow expressions. Progress certainly is the law of nature and there must be corrections and developments with the progress of time. But progress means going further or rising higher. Now, if we are to follow our foolish critic, we are to go back to our former terminus and make a new race, and when we have run half the race another critic of his stamp will cry out: "Begin anew, because the wrong road has been taken!" In this way our stupid critics will never allow us to go over the whole road and see what is in the other terminus. Thus the shallow critic and the fruitless reader are the two greatest enemies of progress. We must shun them.

‘The true critic, on the other hand, advises us to preserve what we have already obtained, and to adjust our race from that point where we have arrived in the heat of our progress. He will never advise us to go back to the point whence we started, as he fully knows that in that case there will be a fruitless loss of our valuable time and labor. He will direct the adjustment of the angle of the race at the point where we are. This is also the characteristic of the useful student. He will read an old author and will find out his exact position in the progress of thought. He will never propose to burn the book on the ground that it contains thoughts which are useless. No thought is useless. Thoughts are means by which we attain our objects. The reader who denounces a bad thought, does not know that a bad road is even capable of improvement and conversion into a good one. One thought is a road leading to another. Thus the reader will find that one thought which is the object today will be the means of a further object tomorrow. Thoughts will necessarily continue to be an endless series of means and objects in the progress of humanity. The great reformers will always assert that they have come out not to destroy the old law, but to fulfill it.’

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Dear Kaviraj
 
I am glad that you did treat rabies with homeopathic medicines. 
 
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YES MURTHY, WE MUST LEARN TO TRUST OUR REMEDIES, WHICH COMES FROM CLOSE ACQUAINTANCE. THAT CAN BE LEARNED, BUT IT REQUIRES MUCH STUDY, STUDY AND STUDY.
SE ABOVE POST FOR THE EFFECTS OF REAL STUDY AND THE EFFECTS OF SHALLOW STUDENTS.
WE NEED TO APPLY OUR INTELLIGENCE JUDICIOUSLY AND WITH PROPER EMPHASIS. THOSE REMEDIES ARE SUCH GREAT FRIENDS - I LOVE THEM BETTER THAN ANY SPOUSE.

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There is no proven proof of a hydrophobinum or any other homeopathic medicine being used successfully to treat (cure) classical form of rabies (hydrophobia) in humans or animals. Though the clinical symptoms exactly (?) match our reportorial analysis.  It is better to get vaccinated, preferably with human diploid vaccine.  Attempting to treat a classical form of full blown hydrophobia (either in humans or animals) by pure homeopathic approach will put the life of the patient in serious danger and the reputation of homeopathy in jeopardy.
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aconite we have a 200 year history with the stuff. If you talk vaccines here, don't ever pretend to me again that you understand anything even remotely of homoeopathy.
I have cured many cases of hydrophobia in India, where the bite of a dog or monkey nearly always ends up with tetanus because it is rampant.
I have used Cantharis - barks like a dog! Foam at the mouth and dangerous to boot.
Hydrophobinum, dread of water and thirsty, permanent erection which is painful.
Stramonium, desire to be aggressive, sexually lewd.
Belladonna, sees monsters and is oblivious to surroundings. Thirst but dread of water beause gliitering causes spasms. Those are the main remedies used.
I have never lost someone to hydrophobia either. So spew your Big Pharma advert at the sceptic's website.

If you have no experience and just blather to people to give them vaccines then you have shown your tru colours - you are a shill for Big Pharma, nothing else. Vade retro!

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And with you all those that would precribe vaccines which contain substances that are at least as dangerous and have far more debilitating effects so that a second bite is often fatal, if the vaccine itself does not kill you. How do you call yourself? Homoeopaths? Cowards? Ignoramuses? Study, you fools!

Scared and ignorant of a disease that is easy to conquer. Shame on you!

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I am sorry to understand that there no Nobel prize awarded to any homeopath so far for his contribution for helping mankind. I am also glad that being a homeopath/allopath myself and employed in India's leading medical institute for treating neurological disorders (hydrophobia including) has for the first time read that a person has treated rabies, homeopathically. Good keep it up and also put a project with your Govt and also to WHO. Please do not miss this opportunity to get a Nobel prize for successfully treating classical form of RABIES.
I would also like know what exactly is RABIES as understood by my friend is it "I have cured many cases of hydrophobia in India, where the bite of a dog or monkey nearly always ends up with tetanus because it is rampant". First of all what is tetanus to do with rabies?
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Ah that was a typo; rabies is rampant but you fall over words and you are not any homoeopath because you mention it in the same breath as allopath. You cannot serve 2 masters. Bluff. If you do, you are not in any way sincere to the service of either. Neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm - distasteful and thus spat out.
Who cares about the Nobel prize? The patient is important only. You seem to crave fame - i crave cures and service to the patient. You have jumped the bandwagon for the quick buck and shill for Big Pharma. If you are ignorant on how to treat Rabies - and tetanus for that matter - don't pretend anything.
Your leading centre does not lead - it seeks fame and fortune. You don't care about patients, you only care about yourself, as evidenced from your post.
It is easy to sit behind the PC and criticise. Do the study and the work and don't pretend to be a homoeopath. Admit you are an allopath and dabbler into homoeopathy. Otherwise you would know which remedies cure rabies.

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Aconite
for your information you might want to do your homework prior to shooting your patients with these toxic rabies vaccines;Confused
 
I agree with Kaviraj 1,000% -Homeopathy has 200+ years of documentation dealing with rabies using homeopathics.Clap
 
Vaccines has "0%" cure rate as to the prevention of diseases www.vaccinationdebate.com
(info on all historical diseases-failure by vaccines to prevent diseases)
NO VACCINE IS A SAFE VACCINE-VACCINES ARE THE GENOCIDE OF MODERN ALLOPATHY!Confused
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Hah, Gina,

The Big Pharma shills present themselves now as homeopaths! What travesty!
shame on them and let us expose them for what they are! Pretenders! Without any clue whatsoever. Panic makers and pandemonium srceamers, without the ability to come up with any panacea. Bluffers and charlatans!

great links, but i bet they do not even dare to go there, afraid of further exposure of their lame excuses. What passes as homeopaths substitutes vaccines for homoeopathic remedies? CryAngryOuch
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THE GUIDING SYMPTOMS
OF OUR MATERIA MEDICA
BY CONSTANTINE HERING, M. D.
Presented by Médi-T

Lyssin. (Lyssinum.) (Hydrophobinum.)

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Lyss. * Full text (185 Ko) * Red and blue only (50 Ko) * Red only

     The saliva of a mad dog. A nosode.

     For historical review, see Hering's Monograph (North American Journal of Homœopathy, 1879).

     The first saliva was obtained by Hering in August, 1833 (see North American Journal of Homœopathy, 1879), and proved by himself in the same year ; by Schmid, an Allentown student, in 1835 ; by Behlert on a number of provers, from 1835 to 1838 ; by Redman Coxe on himself and family, in 1853 ; by Knerr, with the 300th and 600th of Jenichen, on a woman bitten by a dog, not rabid, in 1869.

     Symptoms observed after bites, and those of persons afflicted with rabies, collected from reliable sources, are followed by a dash '-- s. b.'.

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hehe.ClapClapClap
ClapClap
Now whaddayasay, smartypants?
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To Alex
who posted:"Do think autism epidemics was caused by vaccinations ?(YES)
Do you think autism epidemics exists ?(YES) this thread is about Rabies/homeopathy lets stick to the subject alex. Autism related discussions are many  already posted on this site,lots of info on vaccines and autism just do a search in the searchbox.
If you cant find it let me know-Wink as it stands right now "ONE IN EVERY 67 kids" have autism each year in the USA.
You ask {WHY- yes its because of vaccination

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Dear Alex
 
 
The more common homeopathic remedies for Rabies are as follows;
Many more not listed.
 
Hydrophobinum
bell
stram
hyoscyamus
canth
lach
 
Should ONLY BE PRESCRIBED under the guidance of a trained classical Homeopath
As only the well indicated remedy will work
 
Homeopathy Always works,its the homeopath who is lacking.Wink
So I hope this has answered your question.
 
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I agree with gavinimurthy and Dr Rahul for their broad mindedness.
Please read our MM and other experiences posted by our seniors. Read Sankaran's 'Causes and failures in Homeopathy" and other books of his.  Just because the symptoms agree it need NOT cure a disease. Therefore, there is no point in posting repertory extract here. The forum discussions are to create a healthy atmosphere and not to criticize each others and more so allopathy.  The allopaths NEVER said anywhere that the rabies vaccine is absolutely safe and without any side effects at all.

If some can cure any case of Rabies (caused by rabies virus), either symptomatically or by therapeutically by HOMEOPATHIC medicines alone a very HUGE grant will be offered.

Kaviraj: Has said that he has treated (treated) sucessfully several or few cases in India. He can quote any reference of any such publications.

PS: All cases of hydrophobia is NOT Rabies. Hydrophobia (fear of water-liquids) is only a symptom of disease and not Rabies.
- Some people also think the following as rabies:
A case of tetanus as RABIES:I have cured many cases of hydrophobia in India, where the bite of a dog or monkey nearly always ends up with tetanus because it is rampant.
A case of foam in mouth as RABIES:I have used Cantharis - barks like a dog! Foam at the mouth and dangerous to boot.
A case of dread for water as RABIES:Hydrophobinum, dread of water and thirsty, permanent erection which is painful.
A case of sexually lewd as RABIES:Stramonium, desire to be aggressive, sexually lewd.
A case of seeing monster as RABIES:Belladonna, sees monsters and is oblivious to surroundings.
A case of Thirst but dread of water because glittering causes spasms a RABIES.

If these symptoms are known as rabies in homeopathy or in allopathy than ones claim to have treated several cases of rabies is acceptable.

Long live homeopathy and L Pasteur's theory.

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Deliberately calling fools open-minded is disingenious. It is NOT openminded to show your lack of cure and then promoting vaccines. Open-mindedness is doing the study you are in obvious need to do. Laziness is no substitute for care for the patient.
To say they are better than Hering is simply nonsense. Calling a spade a spade is not in any way disrespectful. Disrespectful is to use dangerous vaccines without any care for the results  for the patient. Disrespectful is simply and deliberately ignoring cured cases by others. You first do something about your own disrespect before you call anyone else disrespectful, otherwise 3 words come to mind. Pot. Kettle. Black. You are the one who first showed disrespect by simply denying i could have cured rabies. Who the heck you think you are? What you sow is what you reap.
You only showed your hand and your ignorance.

You are the one disrespecting ANY EXPERIENCE THAT DOES NOT CONFIRM TO YOUR PREJUDICE. Your prejudice shows in your disbelief that rabies can be cured by homoeopathy. Someone with such little faith in homoeopathy cannot be a homoeopath - you are an allopath and nothing else.
I did not give A CASE OF FOAMING AT THE MOUTH and so on -  i gave the main indications for the main features of CONFIRMED RABIES CASES. And as i said, i made a typo when i wrote tetanus instead of rabies, but mistakes are not allowed? You prefer hammering on a typo? What childish foolishness! Then your mistake of shilling for big pharma is also not allowed. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Ah you are a Pasteur worshiper. If i call Pasteur worshipers fools and ignoramuses, i simply tell the truth. Donkeys with certificates could not be greater swindlers in medicine.
Pasteur put medicine on the wrong foot and it has not made a single step forwards since. If you used your brains you would know that cause and result are 2 different things and in all cases where an ASSOCIATED germ is detected, the germ is ALWAYS IN ABUNDANCE IN FULL-BLOWN CASES and therefore equally a result. It cannot be cause and result at the same time. So Pasteur was a swindler, who plagiarised his teacher's work and turned it around to present it as his own. His followers are no better.
You also should read "The Third Element of the Blood, by Bechamps - Pasteur's better and teacher and not follow a plagiarist.

I gave examples of remedies i have used to cure confirmed cases of Rabies. Keep your dirty money - i don't need it. You are the one coming back to money all the time - shows us that you are not interested in a cure, but only in money. False motivation.
To me, only the patient counts and money is much lower on my list. The result is for the patient and not for me. You simply try to bribe me. Well, it will not work.

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Hi Kaviraj
 
You better watch your words. As you are entitled to your opinion others are entitled to theirs. Calling all others who don't toe your line of thinking as fools is inviting trouble.
 
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For Aconite
You are showing your true colors.
A little lesson on Pasteur-
Louis Pasteur's "germ theory" became the medical paradigm, the controlling Allopathic medical idea, for the allopathic world.
  In its simplest form, the germ theory proposes that the body is sterile and that germs from the air cause disease. 
 The medical community started to look for the right pill to kill off the germ.  This concept became ingrained into medicine and medical research.  Most  research goes to looking for the right pill for a specific disease.A long history of this failure is documented.

If new ideas concerning the cause of disease do not fit into this theory that airborne germs cause disease and the answer to illness is finding the right pill to cure the disease, then these new ideas fall on deaf ears.Confused  Any paradigm, or group of ideas, is difficult to break into if the new ideas do not add to the original ideas.Such as the theory of classical Homeopathy.

The billion dollar pharmaceutical industry has taken away some of the symptoms and pain but has not found the answer to many infectious and most all degenerative diseases.
 
  In the U. S., in spite of all the money, research, and volunteer hours spent, all major degenerative diseases are increasing per 100,000.   Diabetes is increasing at an alarming rate. Infectious diseases are also on the rise.  Every year, old symptoms are given new names-names like Herpes,  AIDS, Epstein-Barr virus, Candida Albicans, chronic fatigue syndrome, environmental  illness, and fibromyalgia - to make them appear to be the work of new germs. Instead of looking into the predisposition of Miasms the way homeopathts do.
(Hahnemann-Chronic Diseases)
 
 Unless we turn this nonsense around, the list will only grow in the future.
 
  The Allopathic medical community and the individual must start looking at what is causing the illness rather than how to cure the illness.
 
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