| Author of The Homeopathic Revolution: Why Famous
People and Cultural Heroes Choose Homeopathy. www.homeopathicrevolution.com
Dana Ullman has written numerous articles for magazines, academic
journals, authored many books, organized conferences for homeopaths
(for 20 years he organized the annual conference for the National
Center for Homeopathy in the US) and is often quoted in various
media and internet sites. His main website is: www.homeopathic.com
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Early on Sunday morning, 3rd August, I rushed
out to Heathrow Airport to meet Dana, who was flying home to San
Francisco after his summer holiday in Italy. Despite a little mix
up, we nonetheless found each other and managed to fit in a breakfast
interview. Dana was full of energy and enthusiasm and here is what
he had to say on a multitude of topics concerning homeopathy.
LM: How long did it take you to research
your book, The Homeopathic Revolution?!
DU: I’m laughing because it is something that I have
been working on for several decades! In fact I have always collected
what I consider fascinating facts and figures about homeopathy.
So I have collected the historical and present day information in
various files about famous people. Good writing is weaving together
bodies of information but the actual writing of the book went relatively
fast, over a year’s period of time. I also admit to experiencing
a fair amount of magic on a regular basis. What I mean is that whenever
I would start working on a chapter on politicians or peacemakers,
corporate leaders or philanthropists, I would actively seek, read
books, go online and then all of a sudden someone would email me
some vital information which would just happen to be about the chapter
that I was working on!
LM:
Amazing synchronicity!
DU: Yes, even beyond synchronicity. I am just always amazed at
the regular experiences of ‘coincidence’. It is remarkable
and it also let me know I was on the right track. The 16th century
French essayist, Michel de Montaigne, once wrote: “No wind
blows on a ship without a port of destination.” When we are
doing good work, the Universe ultimately supports it. A wind seems
to come to help one’s journey. That’s not to say there
aren’t obstacles. To me part of the hero’s journey is
accepting the obstacles and not being put off by them but seeing
them as steps on the way and then all of a sudden some gift would
be given to me of yet more evidence that I should consider.
The idea for the book came shortly after Coretta Scott King (Martin
Luther King’s wife)
passed away and the media in America highlighted the fact that she
died in an alternative
medicine hospital in Mexico where she was seeking out homeopathic
treatment. As soon
as I read that, I literally threw down the gauntlet and said to
myself, ‘That does it! Here’s
yet another person people know and respect who sought out and/or
appreciated
homeopathy.’ Maybe it was too late in her life but at least
she sought it out. And I said I
am going to connect the dots of all the most famous people who had
some kind of
treatment or experience of homeopathy.
At first I wasn’t certain that I was going to have enough
information for a book. Well the book ended up being almost 400
pages! I had more than enough information. It is like the work that
Sue Young (http://homeopathy.wildfalcon.com/)
is doing on a regular basis which I appreciate greatly. She has
been running with a lot of this historical information and the internet
certainly makes our lives a lot easier in terms of finding it.
I never expected to find stories of 7 different Popes, let alone
11 American Presidents and
so many other Heads of State. I never expected to find so many literary
greats and so
many cultural heroes, names we all know and respect.
I will tell you a personal story about my father who was a paediatrician
and an allergist.
When I got into homeopathy he was sceptical because he didn’t
know what it was. In the
1980s I mentioned to him that Yehudi Menhuin was the President of
one of the top
homeopathy organisations in the UK. My father had once had the opportunity
to become
a professional violinist and he had always had the highest regard
for Yehudi Menhuin
because he was not only a great musician but also a wonderful philanthropist
and so he
was very moved to hear that this man was an advocate of homeopathy.
Sometimes a person needs convincing about homeopathy by research,
others need a
personal experience and other times people need to know that someone
they have heard
of and admire uses it. I simply try and tell people whatever they
need to know to
convince them that they should investigate it or try it.
I have written a lot about research in homeopathy and I’ve
written a lot about how people
can use the medicines at home to treat themselves and their families.
The third strategy is
to simply show that so many of the most successful, most respected
and even most
famous people in the last 200 years have been advocates. This is
all part of a body of
evidence that will encourage people who may not be familiar with
homeopathy to
consider becoming familiar with it.
LM:
And so have you found a lot of outlets for the book or is it mainly
on your website and on the internet?
DU: I have to admit that it is challenging getting the word out.
There is a lot of noise we all experience from the news, various
medias and the internet. So although the book has gone into its
second printing, I expected it to be into its eight printing or
tenth printing by now. I expected this book to really hit a nerve
in a profound way and even possibly be on a best sellers list. So
it has not reached my personal expectations. It’s a very popular
book but I expected it to be more of a breakthrough book.
LM:
Are you able to get it into bookshops?
DU: One never knows where a book is. You see it on Amazon, you
see it on various sources, I don’t know where it is in the
world.
LM:
I feel there is a kind of media censorship with homeopathy.
DU: Sadly the world doesn’t know much about homeopathy,
so I have some sensitivity to bookshop stores that may not want
to sell the homeopathy books because they don’t sell that
well. The difference with The Homeopathic Revolution is that whether
one is interested in homeopathy or not, we all have an interest
in knowing what successful people do to help them become successful.
How they become healthy is an integral part of someone’s creativity
and/or success so I thought this book would touch a nerve in people.
It has begun to but of course we have a long way to go.
LM:
I think that homeopathy has just started to have a revival in America
since the days when the AMA contributed to making it almost die
out. I am very pleased to see that homeopathy is taking off there
at the moment. Mike Adams who runs www.naturalnews.com and Dr. Joseph
Mercola www.mercola.com have both recently been putting out articles
on homeopathy which they didn’t do in the past and they have
huge email lists reaching millions. It’s great because we’ve
got to get it promoted which you and I are both into. Get the word
out: ‘It works, it works, it works!’
But what we are worried about at the moment
over here, is that via EU regulation, they might say only people
who have state registered qualifications will be allowed to practise.
That will mean the qualifications gained at our private colleges
may not be recognised. But EU regulation can only be imposed when
all 27 member countries have ratified it which has not happened
yet.
DU: I think one of the reasons why the attacks are getting stronger
is also because the professional homeopaths are stronger here in
Europe. So they are going after them here. Homeopathy is still quite
small in the US. I think what is happening in England is interesting
in terms of all the attacks. I think the attacks are taking place
because of homeopathy’s integration within the mainstream,
that it is being taught in various Universities and the medicines
are being sold in Boots and various mainstream pharmacies. So that
is threatening. To be candid, I look forward to the time when homeopathy
is attacked in America because that will mean that homeopathy is
achieving some degree of integration that is threatening.
LM:
It’s almost like there’s no such thing as bad news.
If it’s attacked in the newspapers, then people will ask ‘what’s
this?’ and want to know about it. Before that, they may never
have heard of it.
DU: I don’t want to say the attacks homeopathy is experiencing
is good news and I don’t think any bad news is good news.
I am just saying it is a symptom of a disease and it’s a symptom
of homeopathy’s successes that it is being attacked and that
it’s worthy of attack.
LM:
What they do is first they completely ignore you. For years there
was nothing in the media at all about homeopathy in the UK, nothing.
They kept it out. Homeopathy has become so popular and they don’t
know what to do, so then they have to attack it.
DU: The media is funny because they will cover you to bring you
up and they’ll cover you to bring you down – this sells
in newspapers, magazines and TV.
LM:
Are there any restriction for homeopathic practitioners in America
– I suppose it depends upon the state you live in?
DU: Every state has its own laws. California and Minnesota
are the freer states. Most other states are not enforcing restrictions
because the medical boards are investigating doctors doing dangerous
medical practices, which is a higher risk problem than a natural
healer. I do predict there will be some district attorneys who might
go after homeopaths if they think that they are dangerous, charging
a lot of money, making exaggerated claims or if someone complains.
I also predict that some of the spooks, as you call them, will create
these bogus complaints just to get more investigations going.
LM:
They do that and make a big thing in the newspapers, holding one
practitioner up as an example, in order to send a clear message
to the rest of us. Fortunately there are few legal cases against
natural practitioners.
DU: I read that great book by Martin Walker, Dirty Medicine
http://www.slingshotpublications.com/
I love him. When his book came out I bought 100 copies from him
and I sold some and I gave a bunch away. He is one of these people
who has a backbone and he really showed how the quackbusters are
so much more livid in England compared to anywhere else. These guys
are just crazed, they are so certain of their limited point of view.
They diminish anything. You are damned if you do and damned if you
don’t. You point to research and they want more. I’m
all for more but you just have to acknowledge what’s there.
When you look at the body of evidence – all the basic science,
all the empirical work, all the historical work. I think one has
to be very sceptical to believe it is all psychic abilities and
placebo response. When these spooks say homeopathy is for the birds,
I agree with them it is for the birds and every other living creature
on the planet!
Ultimately in the 21st century, I strongly believe that homeopathy
represents the very
modern if not futuristic medical paradigm because to me it is a
form of nanopharmacology.
I like that word because nano is the only word in our language which
means both very very small AND very powerful. I encourage my colleagues
to use it too
and use the word nanodoses. Part of its definition means one billionth
but its real origins
comes from the word which simply means very small and so I don’t
think of it as simply
a billionth. It is very small and very powerful.
If you think of what an ideal drug should do, to me an ideal drug
should be something
that augments immuno-competence and that’s what homeopathy
does. I don’t mean
simply strengthen the immune system because the immune system doesn’t
always need
strengthening. Sometimes it’s too hyperactive and that is
what auto-immune disease is
all about. In other words homeopathic medicines can and will augment
immune response
when necessary and they will tonify it when it’s overactive
… and that’s what we are
seeing again and again in the clinical practice of homeopathy.
LM:
Balances out the system.
DU: In fact there is a new study that is coming out shortly which
is a re-analysis of the 2005 Lancet review of Shang. The researchers
got it accepted in a major international journal of research. What
they have finally done is what Shang didn’t do. He didn’t
review ALL of the high calibre research but only a small part of
it. He ignored comprehensive analysis entirely. I think he knew
exactly what it was but he didn’t want to report on it, as
it was too positive. Instead he only reported on trials with very
large numbers of subjects because when you do that, most of those
studies use one remedy for everybody without any degree of individuality.
LM:
We individualise.
DU: We do individualise but sometimes the single remedy or the
formulas will work for a broad number of people.
LM:
Like Mixed Pollen for hayfever.
DU: That’s right or Oscillococcinum. But
for some reason they did not include any of David Reilly’s
research. http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/321/7259/471
I don’t know why they ignored it.
LM:
It was too positive.
DU: In fact they had a remark in the Shang article
published in the Lancet, where they specifically made reference
to trials on respiratory ailments and that the results were robust,
but they said they couldn’t trust them because there were
only 8 studies. But then again they based their entire analysis
on 8 homeopathic studies and 6 conventional ones. So they can’t
have it both ways and this new journal article in the Journal of
Clinical Epidemiology which is ranked as one of the top international
journals of reviews of research, has accepted the new studies.
I also want to let you know there have been a number of new plant
studies that some
Swiss and Italian researchers have conducted, showing powerful effects
of homeopathic
doses on plants.
LM:
I don’t think that’s the Placebo Effect!! So did you
meet the researchers when you were on holiday in Italy?
DU: No, I met them two years ago in London at the Royal London
Homeopathic Hospital conference. Stephan Baumgartner is a leader
in the group.
LM:
Very interesting.
DU: There was a group of mostly physicians and scientists who
I also met in London 2 years ago at the same conference. They came
with a large contingent of researchers. If you have read the journal
Homeopathy of the UK Faculty of Homeopathy, it is the best academic
journal with the best information on research.
LM: I heard that Professor
Edzard Ernst is on the Editorial board of Homeopathy.
DU: Yes, he is on their editorial board but I
don’t mind having dialogue with our critics.
LM: He used homeopathy and
he thought it was great and now he is saying the opposite.
DU: It is a tad ironic that one of his own studies
in 1990 tested a homeopathic formula in the treatment of people
with varicose veins, and it showed positive results!
LM:
This thing about plants is interesting as a homeopathic practitioner
in the US, Phyllis Geordic, was also telling me about this and how
they use it in their garden and how their plants grow so much better.
DU: There is a book that has come out called Homeopathy
for Farming and Gardening and I want more people to investigate
and read it and expand upon it further to see what works and what
doesn’t. I believe that homeopathy really is going to be one
of the important technologies for the future, not just for medicine
but for planetary health, plant health, for ecological disasters
even. I wonder what we can do there?
LM:
It’s amazing and once we start proving how it works in the
garden, they really do have to shut up about the placebo effect!
DU: One of my other bodies of information that I am very
proud of, which a lot of people are not familiar with, is the ebook
I wrote called Homeopathic Family Medicine. http://www.homeopathic.com/store/hfm/ebook_hfm.jsp
This is the most up to date and comprehensive body of information
on clinical research
verifying the efficacy of homeopathy and it is an ebook because
I update it every 3 or 4
months. I have several hundred clinical trials that are referenced.
Each of them is
referenced according to the disease for which they are known to
treat. As an ebook, it is
organised according to a disease, so you can read about what research
has been done to
treat people with asthma or allergies or arthritis or ADD or whatever.
There is over a 100
ailments provided in this ebook. There isn’t research on every
one of them but it is
amazing how many for which there is research. It is usually double
blind, placebo
controlled trials, though sometimes there are other types of studies
that are done that have
been published in peer reviewed journals which are worthy of reference.
Because a number of people really do need convincing through seeing
the research, I am always shocked about how few homeopaths know
anything about our scientific evidence. It is not that homeopaths
need this information for their own convincing, they don’t.
Even the patient in front of them doesn’t need it but
the patient’s spouse does, the patient’s neighbours
do, the patient’s in-laws do. We are all surrounded by
certain people who are sceptical for whom it is good to have this
information.
I have been disappointed many times at the ignorance of homeopaths
about our body of
scientific evidence. It's almost as though most homeopaths don’t
give a damn about what
evidence there is or isn’t. Some homeopaths even say that
research is impossible with
homeopathy because the medicines have to be individualised. They
don’t understand that
you can do research that allows for individual treatment. It’s
tricky to do that but it's all
doable and more important, it has been done. There have been studies
of some of the
single remedies and some of the formula products which have shown
beneficial results.
Not all research is positive and you can do a trial in a tricky
way so it fails and there have
been plenty of those studies done but still the bulk of research
on homeopathy has had
positive results.
LM:
And even when you put all that evidence to the Quackbusters on these
websites and blogs, they still ignore it, don’t they?
DU: Yes, absolutely (laughs). I have in front of me a very
powerful statement by one of the world’s leading skeptics
of not just homeopathy but of other alternative stuff. It’s
a man named Martin Gardner and it comes from a magazine called
The Skeptical Enquirer - one of those magazines full of articles
published by skeptics. They have a special article about Sir Arthur
C. Clark, the science fiction writer who wrote the book which became
the movie ‘2001 A Space Odyssey’. Martin Gardner quotes
Clark and I love this quote: ‘A sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic. When a distinguished but elderly
scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly
right; that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.’
I fully agree. Ultimately many of our skeptics insist that homeopathy
is magic or that it is completely placebo but guess what, you can’t
do what we do in homeopathy through placebo. Besides all the body
of scientific evidence, when one does even a cursory review of homeopathy’s
history, you cannot explain so many of the successes that we’ve
experienced – in treating infectious diseases, epidemics,
treating people with very serious chronic illness and life-saving
conditions that would normally kill people and having such good
results with homeopathy.
LM:
Absolutely and when you see a child’s high fever go down within
minutes or a haemorrhage stop practically instantly after the right
remedy, you have to see it to believe it. In acutes, that’s
when you really see the magic happen. Do you have a busy practice?
DU: No, I don’t. I don’t see patients. I spend
all my time writing about homeopathy, teaching homeopathy, publishing
books. You may or may not know it, my company Homeopathic Educational
Services has co-published about 35 different books with a Berkeley
company called North Atlantic Books. I usually bring the books to
them and we co-publish them together. North Atlantic and my company
have published some of the best modern homeopathic books, ranging
from a couple of books by Whitmont, Bailey’s Homeopathic
Psychology, Paul Herscu’s The Homeopathic Treatment
of Children, Hamilton’s Homeopathic Medicines for
Cats and Dogs, Peter Chappell’s Emotional Healing
with Homeopathy. These are an integral part of the modern body
of information and if you notice, all these books are extremely
reasonably priced. So I have always been committed to making information
available at as reasonable a price as possible. To me that is part
of my own personal ethic.
LM:
In a way you’re more into promoting homeopathy, which is really
good, because that’s what we need to do.
DU: I myself took it seriously and at the same time found the
means of providing information about it. I think there’s a
tendency among homeopaths to talk to themselves and to talk to the
already converted and just expect people to come to them when they’re
ready. I think sometimes you need to rattle the bushes and wake
people up who may not initially have a prediliction towards homeopathy
- to at least have them consider it.
I also found in writing the book The Homeopathic Revolution
that not only were there 7 different Popes that used or advocated
for it but I found a whole host of other clergy and spiritual leaders
ranging from leading Muslim clerics and Rabbis to Eastern gurus
and so my hope is that homeopathy becomes one of the means for common
ground that can be used to realise that we are all in this together.
Even if we have different beliefs, we can have some agreed upon
understandings about health and healing which we can share with
each other and benefit from each other and heal each other.
LM:
Yes, unite the religions a bit.
DU: Boy, do we need that one!
LM:
Is there anything else that you would like to say?
DU: I hope that homeopaths will consider the importance
of supporting homeopathic companies first. If a homeopathic company
has a product, buy it from them. Support our own organisations.
Support our own companies before rushing off to Amazon and some
of the other discount websites. I have also read that some people
use machines to make homeopathic medicines as a way of not having
to buy them from the pharmacies.
LM: Radionics machines.
DU: I really hope that people realise how damaging
that can be to our industry and I do believe that it is important
that we support our industry in order to achieve the success that
we’re due.
LM:
Keep it alive. I agree.
DU: I do devote a lot of my time and effort in getting the word
out for homeopathy. However, due to all of my volunteer efforts,
I need support from fellow advocates for homeopathy. I need people
to consider donating money to these active media efforts. If, by
chance, someone could come forward with some significant financial
support, I would hire a professional PR person with whom I could
create an active media response team that would make homeopathy
a "household word."
If your life (or someone close to you) has benefitted greatly
from homeopathy, I sincerely hope that you reach out to me and/or
to other individuals or organizations who are really making a difference.
It is amazing how a reasonable little amount of money can create
a significant effect. I hope that someone out there reaches out
to help me put homeopathy on the map.
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