To read last month’s full case quiz. Visit – What Remedy Is Marie Barone?
And we’re back! Who knows what the quiz answer is today?
This show is shown in UK but must admit I never really took to it. I’m thinking Pulsatilla for Muriel.
You mean Marie, don’t you? Muriel was last month.
Right, Marie, Pulsatilla for the manipulation with a sweet smile, or maybe even Lachesis.
Well, I’m afraid you have to pick one. You just voted for 2 remedies.
She likes to appear the victim or the innocent but behind it is a plan a desire get what she wants, an emotional game of chess..Just as a child will manipulate the parent to achieve its goals so i think the overbearing mother can do the same …a role reversal. She makes those around her feel guilty if they challenge her. Seems like her husband is the only one who dares to as he can see through her ways, the others seem to know it too, they all sit down with a groan, thinking here we go again, but don’t want to upset her. I’m voting for Pulsatilla.
You picked the wrong one.
Is anybody else here today?
Hi Elaine and Shana!
Oh look, it’s Maria from Greece!
For this month’s quiz my vote goes to Pulsatilla.
She is listed under Manipulative, Deceitful and Selfish rubrics. I could add Clinging rubric also.
OK, but don’t stop there. What are the other elements of the case? In other words, what are the “keynotes” of Marie Barone? You’ve already mentioned manipulative, selfish…but what else? What was striking?
I thought of Lachesis too but I remembered Pulsatilla’s description from Philip’s Bailey book Homeopathic Psychology:
Her principal concerns revolve around her loved ones, and her life is devoted to a search for and then a celebration of personal love.
Pulsatilla nearly always has someone to whom she is devoted. As a child it was usually her parents.
Later on her devotion is transferred to her boyfriend, and then to her husband and her children.
As long as she is with her loved ones, and their love for her is evident, she is happy, and is relatively free from ambition.
Feminists tend to see red when they are confronted with Pulsatilla. She is quite happy to stay at home and look after her husband and her children.
In fact this is what she lives for. She is extremely nurturing, and indulges her loved ones as much as she likes to be indulged herself.
I haven’t watched any other episodes of the series to be sure that this is a Pulsatilla case, but from this one episode, I think Pulsatilla fits.
Is Pulsatilla likely to embarrass her children? Think about what you just said: “…extremely nurturing…indulges her loved ones…” It sounds like Bailey is saying Pulsatilla is “other-oriented”, but Marie is very self-oriented. You know who seemed like a Pulsatilla from this episode? Pat, Amy’s mother.
I guess you’re right that Pulsatilla wouldn’t act that way. I’m not good at picking rubrics, though.
Just think about the elements of the case, then we can find rubrics for them later.
The most striking to me, is that she really thinks it is ok to enter the men’s room, or to ruin her son’s wedding.
To put it generally, it is natural to her, expressing her opinions inappropriately, with that mild tone in her voice.
That’s what confuses everyone!
Like you said, no boundaries.
So what is the rubric for walking into the men’s room, or stopping a wedding? “Audacity”! It means “having a lot of nerve!” Now, what else? Why did she stop the wedding? To make a SPEECH! How many people are inclined to make speeches? Especially in public? Most people are afraid to speak in public! So, there is actually a rubric, “Mind: talking, makes speeches”. Now, what’s the other thing about Marie? Controlling! She needs to control her sons! So where is that in the Repertory? “Mind: domineering disposition, control, wants to control others”. So, we could go on, but, what we’ve got here adds up to Lachesis.
Exactly! I didn’t know the words to look it up! I searched about looking for “controlling” and couldn’t find it, I didn’t think of the word Domineering. And it is maybe the first time I hear the word Audacity. I would find very useful an article about rubrics, how to find them.
I used to do that in “Repertory Round-Up” (see parts 1 and 2) but I didn’t get much, if any, feedback from it, so, I assumed that people weren’t interested in learning where to find rubrics.
Thank you for your help Elaine, GREAT quiz! Learnt a lot!
Thanks Maria! I loved this video too! And thanks to Shana for finding it!
Does anyone else want to come up and give the answer to the quiz?
Well Marie is quite a character!
What I see is someone who is domineering, manipulative, has a love of power, selfish, loss of self control (she couldn’t wait till Robert came out of the bathroom etc.)
She went in there purposely, that was what was so striking!
and excessive loquacity as we see when Ray and the minister sit down during her speech. All of these characteristics make me think of Lachesis so that’s what I vote for. 🙂
Yes! You’re right!!! Good job!
Let me know if I”m on the right track. 🙂
Thanks again for a really fun quiz !
OK, I see Dr. Salma Afroz all the way from Bangladesh!
Hi Elaine. Sorry i am not getting any suitable rubric for last month’s quiz. Could you give me any clue?
OK, so, you have to make a list of the elements of the case and then see if there are rubrics for those things. So, Marie…What kind of person is she? What did she do in this episode? She walked into the men’s room to, obstensibly, “talk” to her son; but, what message was she really sending? “You can’t get away from me”? “I have total control over you”? And the fact that she does it with a “smile” on her face, could you say that she’s “deceitful”? So, I would say: Deceitful, controlling, and she has a lot of “nerve”, too; right? So, watch the episode again and ask yourself, What is Marie doing, and what does that say about her, then write it down, and see if there are rubrics that match.
Thank you so much for your clues. Is Marie Barone lachesis?
OK, I think we may just about have time for the gang from Slovakia!
Hello Elaine and Shana!
Hello Miroslav and Jitka!!!!
Here are our answers to your summer quiz. It is very difficult to think in such heat..:)
Oh, no kidding! Its murder here, absolute murder!
I caught to see the video about Marie, but Miroslav not, because his computer was broken. Today I found that the video is not really there anymore.
OMG! Let me check! OK, I think I see what you mean. First of all, I could only get it to work on Google Chrome. But even then, when I clicked on the “play” button, it said something like “server error”, and I was, like, What? No way! And I just stared at it wondering what I was going to do, and then suddenly the video started! So try it again and wait a minute this time and see if it doesn’t start on its own.
Miroslav votes Lachesis.
I couldn´t open the video, so don´t mind, I´m going to trust the description of “the heroine” of the quiz: manipulative, smart, scheming… she might be Lachesis.
DD: Platinum – it’s metal, precious metal, aware of its value. Apparently it wouldn´t be such manipulative, intriguing. By my way Platinum pretends nothing, it simply insists on its principles. Marie is afraid of losing influence on her son, the daughter-in -law is a threat to her, so she tries to thwart the wedding.
Good! I like Miroslav’s reasoning! He really nailed it!
Jitka votes for Platina.
As far as I am concerned, I vote for Platinum. At first I couldn´t decide because I was looking for a rubric “jealousy”. By my opinion Marie was jealous for her son was going to be married. Clearly Lachesis is winning in this rubric, but I have an idea that Lachesis wouldn´t be so an awful woman. I think Platinum thinks about herself she is “upper-crust”, but she just shows it off only with her haughty manners. I didn´t like this woman at all. I have assigned her such character features – rubrics (Kent) :
everywhere here Platinum is in bold letters and of course Platinum belongs to narcissistic characters.
Hmm….. see, Marie isn’t insolent. Insolent means “openly rude”. Marie is “artful”, “cunning”. She says, “I love you! Everything I do is out of love!” So in the final analysis, you can’t be mad at her! Right? She makes you feel guilty! She gets away with her intrigue every time!
“Contemptuous”, I think, may be too harsh. And I think maybe if you can actually watch the video (unless you’ve already watched it) you might see it differently.
But thanks for voting as always!
OK, who won? Miroslav and Krista and Dr. Salma Afroz. Congratulations you guys! Don’t forget to try this month’s quiz, and I’ll see you back here again in September!
Elaine Lewis, D.Hom., C.Hom.
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