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OK, I’m ready if you are! Will the first contestant enter and sign in, please!
Mom, it’s Wayne, your soul brother from Australia!
I know, but, it’s all real-life stuff that happens! As a matter of fact, not only does it happen but someone named Nasir wrote to me from Canada and said, “Help! I have the same rash!” I couldn’t believe it! I said, “You have to be careful, because it’s not just antibiotics that have this side-effect, virtually any drug can cause itching and rashes, all the more reason to stay away from drugs and doctors (since they can’t cure anything) and get into natural healing and organic foods and cook them yourself! What can I say?
It sounds like you had a case of allergic reaction to penicillin.
Yes, it does, doesn’t it; and hence, the remedy is?????????
There is a remedy Penicillin.
Yes, I know!
but skin signs are weeping, edema, herpes and the like and doesn’t seem to fit.
Here’s what Murphy’s Materia Medica says under Penicillin:
Changeable sycotic condition with boils, skin diseases, warts and muco-purulent weeping. Boils, especially on the face with edema. Eczema, oozing out a pale liquid. Warts. Acne. Herpes-type eruption on the face. Weeping, macerated impetigo mycosis of the epidermis.
Changeable sycotic condition with boils, skin diseases, warts and muco-purulent weeping. Fever continues for a very long time, worse in the evening. Hot or cold perspiration with a stale odor. Limbs cold with paraesthesia. Ecchymosis. Recurring angina.
The words, “skin diseases” and “eczema”, can refer to any skin condition at all! It means anything is possible!
Penicillin side effects listed at drugs.com list “rash” and “itching” among other things; the word “rash” covers a wide territory.
So, what’s of interest here in the Materia Medica is the word “changeable”. This was a characteristic symptom in my case, the rash and itching kept changing places, it wasn’t just in one spot. Other characteristic symptoms in the case were: itching without eruptions; eruptions appear after scratching; and itching, scratching agg. If we repertorize these we get:
I probably tried most of the top 12. Remember, this went on for over a month!
I looked under
Skin, Itching, eruptions
The actual rubric is itching WITHOUT eruptions. So what are the characteristic symptoms, what characterizes this case, making it different from any other case of skin rash? 1. The rash wanders. 2. The eruptions come after scratching. 3. Scratching doesn’t stop the itch, it aggravates. 4. Itching without eruptions.
Skin, Itching, scratching aggravates,
That was the only characteristic symptom you picked.
Diseases antibiotics, worse from,
That isn’t quite accurate. It’s not a disease that antibiotics have made worse. Antibiotics are actually the cause of the disease, the etiology.
Arsenic was the only remedy in all three rubrics;
But you only had actually one valid rubric: itching, scratching agg. The two other big ones were “eruptions come after scratching”, and, “itching, wandering”.
it has a vast range of skin conditions, with a burning which is not mentioned here.
Didn’t I say there was a kind of “burning” after scratching? Hence, the “scratching agg.” rubric? I’m pretty sure I tried Arsenicum as it came up #3 in my repertorization.
Arsenic is the best I can do, so I will wait for your answer.
Do you remember last month we talked about the Hierarchy Of Symptoms? Remember I said the H.O.S. was like a game of “poker” (a card game)? If you have an Ace (equivalent to whatever is at the top of the hierarchy), it beats out all the “lower” cards your opponent has! Now, look at this case, look at our “lower” cards–the the wandering itching, the itching without eruptions, scratching aggravates and so on…they are now irrelevant! Why? Because we have an Ace! We know what the etiology is! The etiology is at the top of the Hierarchy and, in this case, it is: “Ailments From Antibiotics”! This was the big break in the case! It made all those local symptoms irrelevant! When I concluded from watching the Perdue Chicken commercial that I had an antibiotic rash, I went straight for Penicillin 30C without even thinking about it; why? It’s the etiology!!!! The TOP of the hierarchy! It trumps everything! You can’t off-set it with a bunch of local, peculiar, mental, etc. symptoms–even if you have 20 or 30 of them, it just doesn’t matter! Agaricus covered the whole case, but nothing beats the etiology! That’s why none of those other remedies worked or held!!!!! (Does everybody get that?)
So, yes, the remedy was Penicillin 30C, which I repeat every so often when the itching starts again and it always works–Thank God!
Thanks again for your insight. If it was hard for you then it certainly was difficult.
Actually, it was only difficult until I quite accidentally landed on the cause! It shows that if all you have is the totality of symptoms, you may not be able to solve the case! Pretty sobering thought, isn’t it? In my interview with Robin Murphy, I asked him, “What are the biggest mistakes we’re making?” He said, “Making etiology just another symptom in the totality–equal to all the others.” https://hpathy.com/homeopathy-interviews/robin-murphy-2/print/
Great explanation. One I won’t forget.
Bye, Wayne, see you again soon! Will our next contestant enter and sign in please?
Mom, it’s our friend Maria from Greece!
Hi Elaine and Shana!
Hi Maria, I have high hopes for you getting the right answer!
My vote for this month’s quiz is Nux vomica.
I could be wrong since under Toxicity/Antibiotics,ailments from, there are many remedies.
But since Nux vomica is the big gun under ailments from drugs, I’ll vote for it. If I missed something I will try again.
Well, Maria, you get points, at least, for having the right idea! And maybe Nux v. would have worked too, who knows? But, I did the easiest thing of all–do you want to take a second guess?
Ηmmmm, ailments from bad meat?
The meat wasn’t “bad”, it was just filled with antibiotics!
Go stand next to Wayne.
I can’t come up with anything else.
Well, Maria, if antibiotics were the cause, then what is the cure?
I would say a remedy made from an antibiotic. I am sorry I can’t guess, I don’t even know the names of any antibiotics. Oh wait, is it penicillin?
YES!!! Penicillin is actually in the Materia Medica! (It’s in Murphy’s anyway.) And I happen to have Penicillin 30C here, for some reason–thank Goodness!!!! So, that was it!
Wow, good for you Elaine! It’s a good opportunity for the rest of us to learn about it too!
It would seem like an important remedy to buy if you don’t already have it.
Shana, who else is here?
Look, Mom, it’s Miroslav and Jitka!
Hello Elaine and Shana,
Hello Miroslav and Jitka!!!
It’s us, your faithful participants.
Good for you, for your desire to learn!
We are always looking forward to your quiz, just as we do pay-day… 🙂
Really? I had nooooooo ideeeeeea!
Here are our answers:
Miroslav thinks: Arsenicum alb.
It seems to be a very popular choice.
I think that in this case a real etiology is food poisoning and that is why I chose Arsenicum album.
Well, something was in the food, alright!
Moreover, the following rubrics match:
– Eruptions after scratching
– Scratching does not improve case
– A sort of unpleasant burning is mentioned
– Hives – that’s probably a specific kind of hives
– Symptoms are severe at night
– She scratches until it starts to bleed
– Last but not least the food poisoning
I don’t think we can call this “food poisoning”. There was no gastro-intestinal involvement, no nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea.
The only thing that does not match is the modality with multiple exclamation marks, namely:
“changing places after scratching“. I’m not sure, however, whether immediately after scratching or it takes some time, until scratching subsides.
No, no, after scratching eruptions appear. Changing places occurs randomly, not because of scratching; and by the way, changing places isn’t a “modality”. The modalities are the things that make the complaint better or worse, and the truth is, nothing made this complaint better or worse! Scratching didn’t help, hot compresses didn’t help, cold compresses didn’t help…nothing!
Jitka thinks: Alumina
Thanks to revisiting your quizzes, we found out that our translation of Murphy´s repertory is not completely perfect, therefore sometime I have distrust towards it. Therefore, for finding the remedy for your itching I used online Abchomeopathy- remedy finder. I chose three symptoms that seemed to be most significant in your case.
skin; itching; without visible out-break on skin;
Meaning, “Itching without eruptions”.
skin; itching; changing place on scratching;
No, scratching causes the rash to break out, not “itching changes place on scratching” which Staphysagria is so famous for. Again, the changing places is random and you never know when it’s going to happen, and it can be in several places at once.
skin; itching; unchanged by scratching
Right, and the other characteristic symptom is “eruptions after scratching”.
Alumina came out as the most similar remedy. Less similar remedy were also Agar, Mez, Barytac, and so on.
Actually, I repertorized, and Mezereum scored very high but it did nothing! I can’t remember if I took Agaricus but I must have.
But I was reminded of your conversation with Shana about your dinner in the lead-in to your quiz where your thinking seemed somewhat impaired and sluggish. Therefore, I think that Alumina might be the right remedy for your crazy itch.
Jitka, at 68, my thinking is always sluggish and impaired! In fact, I’m really not sure who you are, are we related?
Now, Miroslav and Jitka, you are forgetting last month’s lesson on the Hierarchy of Symptoms! Do you remember that what’s at the top of the hierarchy trumps everything below it? Remember I said that if we’re playing cards and I have a queen and all your cards are 2’s and 3’s and 5’s, that means I win? And it doesn’t matter how many cards you have because my queen is higher!? Good! So, OK, now that I’ve refreshed your memory, tell me what is at the top of the hierarchy, I will just calmly sit here and wait …
[…ten years later…]
Hello Elaine, it’s Jitka and Miroslav again!
Good, I was beginning to nod off!
We tried to correct our previous mistakes as follows:
In a rubric “rash after scratching” is a total of 61 remedies. After
excluding already-tried and ineffective remedies, I would chose Sulphur this time. But
there is that crazy itching which I couldn’t find in the repertory. My eyes fell on
the rubric : “Itching, with despair” and the only remedy there is Psorinum.
I’m pretty sure I tried Psorinum, I may have seen that rubric too!
Although Psorinum is not in the rubric: “Rash after scratching” I vote for
OK, you’re voting for Psorinum then. Jitka, you’re next!
I didn´t notice that you have ever had a problem with distracted thinking…. 🙂
That’s because you’re the same age I am!
I like your fun conversations with Shana, but this time I thought it was kind of “a helping trick”.
(Would that that were true!)
…pretending that you’re somehow scatterbrained.
My mom is always pretending to be scatterbrained! And do you know why? She’s a fan of Gracie Allen!!!! She loves Gracie Allen! Once you figure that out, everything falls into place!
I hope that this time I correctly understood your explanation about the cards and a queen, and that the “queen” in this case (or as we say, “ace in the hole”) was “allergy to antibiotics in the chicken.”
Exactly!!!!! Just to show you the degree of this problem of antibiotics in chicken, see below:
(This story is the first in a series called, “Farmaceuticals”.)
By Brian Grow and P.J. Huffstutter
ATLANTA/CHICAGO, Sept 15 (Reuters) – Major U.S. poultry farms are administering antibiotics to their flocks far more pervasively than regulators realize, posing a potential risk to human health.
Internal records examined by Reuters reveal that some of the nation’s largest poultry producers routinely feed chickens an array of antibiotics – not just when sickness strikes, but as a standard practice over most of the birds’ lives.
Yeesh! Well, Jitka, if antibiotics are the cause, then antibiotics must be the cure!
I dug through the whole of “Murphy’s” to find the right rubric. In the chapter “Food” I found no rubric on allergy, only in the chapter :
– Diseases – allergic reaction – hives, and swelling, with – 29 remedies.
– Chapter -Skin – rash after scrathing – cca 64 rem
– Chapter -Skin- itching – migratory/wandering – 26 rem.
In all three rubrics is a prominent remedy for itch Sulphur and therefore I think you used Sulphur.
I’m quite sure I did try Sulphur. But, Miroslav and Jitka, it’s very simple. When I saw that commercial on TV–which was my “Aha!” moment–I went right for the most obvious remedy in the world! Did you know that Penicillin is a homeopathic remedy? It’s in the Materia Medica! At least it’s in Murphy’s, anyway! And luckily, for some strange reason, I had Penicillin 30C here! So that’s what I took, and it’s been a life saver–and by the way, proving that I really did have an antibiotic rash and it really was the chicken! I’m always telling people in my articles, “You can’t eat out!” and ironically, the one time I eat out, look what happens?!
Elaine, you were wondering who I was, if possibly we were related. I wrote once something, but of course among many of your patients, students, colleagues, etc., you can’t remember everybody. I am your contemporary, I’ll be 65 next month. I live in Slovakia (part of former Czechoslovakia – EU). I have never had luck at good teachers of English or Homeopathy; so I mostly learn everything on my own. I’m also a liberal like you and I´m among your friends on FB and you are among mine.
Dear God! I know who you are!!!!! I was just kidding–making fun of my advanced age–while I still can!
Say hello to Shana for me, she’s a very nice girl.
Did you hear that Shana? Oh great, we lost Shana again! (What an attention-span!) Well, thanks again Miroslav and Jitka, and try to remember, I really do know who you are!
Will our next contestant enter and sign in, please!
Hey everybody, Vamsi’s in the house!
I hope you had a great Halloween. I was at Portsmouth, UK and we had a great time.
Wow! That’s great!
Back to your wonderful quiz. Busy with our Diwali festival, but I can’t miss this.
Btw, the new image of Shana looks cute.
Thanks! She’s apparently joined the Peanuts Gang! (Setting her sights high, as usual.)
Okay, coming over to the quiz, an intriguing quiz from you again. Looks like you had to suffer a lot from a rash.
Yes, very demoralizing and distressing!
I see this could be due to the antibiotic which was injected in the chicken.
Actually, Vamsi, they put it in their feed to fatten them up. (Idiots!)
Then it should undoubtedly be “SULPHUR”. ( Allergy due to Antibiotic)
Am I on the right track ? Do let me know.
I suspect I probably tried Sulphur. I tried many things. Typically a remedy would work one or two times and then stop working. What finally really worked, once I realized it was antibiotics, was Penicillin 30C.
You know, sometimes nothing but the actual thing that caused the complaint will cure it. This is why finding the etiology is so important!
Feeding animals and vegetable plants with medicines is ruining our lives. The destructive side of science.
Looks like the old days were much healthier and happier…….
So Penicillin also works for “Reaction due to Antibiotics”?
Vamsi, don’t think of it as having to be in the Repertory. If you know that something caused something, that’s the remedy! Never mind what the Repertory says about it. Let’s say you were getting a rash from a steroid anti-inflammatory like Prednisone. What would the remedy be? Prednisone 30C! Let’s say you were getting a rash from the drug Lipitor, what would the remedy be? Lipitor 30C. (See my article “How To Make Your Own Remedy”: https://hpathy.com/homeopathy-papers/how-to-make-your-own-remedy/print/) That’s how you have to look at these things. I don’t know which antibiotics they feed to chickens. I took Penicillin 30C just hoping it would be right! (and because it was HERE in the house!) Certainly nothing else worked!
Does it work for any reaction of antibiotics?
If you’re taking antibiotics and you get a reaction, make a remedy out of your own antibiotic. That’s the best way. Thank you, Vamsi! Well, I think it’s high time we gave a shout-out to all our winners!
Mom, nobody won! So you can start dinner now. I would do it, but I’m watching TV.
Well, as long as you have a good excuse! See you again next time, everybody, for another grand and fabulous Hpathy Quiz!
Elaine Lewis, D.Hom., C.Hom.
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