Case Quizes Clinical Cases

Revisiting: Whole Body Screaming!

It looks like another COVID case! Scroll down to see the answer.

It’s time for another quiz, Mom!

I find that hard to believe!

Don’t look now, but, we missed two very important deaths from the April Death Report!

Get out!!!!  We did?  Well, actually, that would have shown up in the May Quiz, probably.  Who did we report on in May?

May was a very big month!  We lost Luis from Sesame Street….

Oh, right…

Guitarist Joe Messina from the Funk Brothers (the Motown studio band)…

Right…

Comedian Gilbert Gottfried…

Right…

And most of all, Bobby Rydell!

OMG!  No wonder we didn’t have room for anybody else!  Who died that we should have reported on?

Liz Sheridan and Estelle Harris from “Seinfeld”!  Both of them were 93 years old.

Liz, of course, played Jerry Seinfeld’s mother, and Estelle Harris played George Costanza’s mother:

Left to right: Liz Sheridan with son Jerry, Estelle Harris with son George.

I have to tell you, “Seinfeld” was one of the funniest sitcoms ever, and there were no small parts!  Everyone on that show was a real character!  In this episode, the Seinfeld’s are visiting from Florida, but they won’t have dinner with the Costanza’s and George is very upset!  Jerry says to his mom, “Why won’t you have dinner with them?”  Mrs. Seinfeld says, “We don’t much care for the Costanza’s.  They’re so loud, they’re always fighting!  They’re exhausting, it’s like being in an asylum!”

RIP, Liz Sheridan and Estelle Harris!

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This month, Motown songwriter, Ivy Joe Hunter (real name George Ivy Hunter), passed away at 82.

And Mom, it turns out he’s written a lot of your favorite songs, not to mention Motown’s signature song—“Dancing In The Street”!

You’re kidding!

And there’s a great song he wrote for the Four Tops called “Ask The Lonely”:

Four Tops | Spotify  The Four Tops

He wrote too many songs to name them all, but they include “Can You Jerk Like Me” by The Contours, “Truly Yours” by The Spinners, “I’ll Keep On Holding On” by The Marvelettes; but I think we should go out with one of his hits by The Temptations!

For sure, Shana, but, I can’t resist playing “I just wanna know, can you jerk like me?”

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Who’s in the Quiz this month?

Marcia of Queensberry.

Who????

Marcia of Queensberry!

Is that her real name?

Of course not!

What’s wrong with her?

I think it’s covid.  She had covid before, and she said it’s just like the last time which was exactly 3 months ago!

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you now, the one and only….

Marcia of Queensberry!!!!!!

Good grief.

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Hi, Elaine, I literally have almost the same symptoms I had in June.

Questionnaire

Name: Marcia of Queensberry

Age: 50

Male or Female: female

Weight: 160

Height: 5’4″

Date: 9/21/22

Email Address: [email protected]

  1. Describe the complaint

Yesterday afternoon I began to sneeze a lot.  My daughter has the same thing, so I thought it was a cold.  I had a stuffy nose when I went to bed and did not sleep well.  My throat was sore as well.  I could hardly breathe and kept waking up choking on drainage.  I took a hot shower before bed, which helped some.  I then took Rhus T 200, but didn’t notice much.

Today things went down hill.  I had a fever by lunch time.  I am freezing to death.  I woke with a feeling of drainage in my throat and kept having to clear my throat.  Still sneezing some, clear mucus, with a completely stuffed up right nostril.  Throat is still awful, so I cannot eat.  I feel awful and have the terrible headache again when I lay down.  I have terrible body aches as well.  I tried the Covid nosode, but again didn’t notice much.  I feel too bad to think what else to do.  Temp is currently 101.9. I am urinating a lot, not matching how little I am drinking.  I am also very gassy, which is odd.

The worst is the body aches, all over, and the headache.  Sweet Lord, help my head.  I cannot even think with this.  It is in the temples, but also the back of my head.  I am weak and feverish, so I want to lie down, but then I hurt so much and putting my head on the pillow is torture.  Just like before. I also hate the stuffy nose.  It is stuffy and running (clear).

  1. Etiology–

I think it may be Covid.  Not sure yet.  Had to have a PCR test, the long one. Negative for Strep.  They had no flu tests.

  1. Sensation–

My head is throbbing, especially when I lay down.  It is worse lying down. It will just throb and I can feel my pulse in it.  Body aches, just feel like I am bruised maybe all over and it hurts to touch my own skin.  Nose is completely blocked on right side.

  1. Appearance–

I look terrible – like I’m strung out on something.  My eyes are somewhat droopy.  I didn’t sleep though because of the discomfort.  Eyes are half open.

  1. Location–where on the body is your complaint located?

Head- for the headache and the body aches are all over.  There isn’t an inch of my body that isn’t screaming.  Right nostril.

  1. Modalities–

Aches are better for warmth.  I sat outside in the heat a long time earlier.  I cannot stand the fan or AC.  I just shiver.  I also am hating cold drinks or food.

  1. Concomitants

I am tired and feel defeated.  I cannot believe I am this sick again.  I am in training and this is messing up everything.

  1. Discharges–

Nasal mucus is clear.

  1. Generals–

I am frozen.  I am in some despair.

  1. The mentals:

I am dull and kind of indifferent I think.  I am just so sick I can’t care about much else.

  1. What have you been saying?

Nothing really.  Just that I feel really bad.  I feel like someone has been dashing me on rocks.

  1. What are you doing?

Trying to drink, wishing I’d feel better.

  1. Describe your thirst and appetite–

Not thirsty, except hoping sometimes it will help my throat.  I have tried some hot drinks, but it doesn’t last.  My throat is not even really red either.

  1. Fever?

It has been constant since it started and continues to go up.  I don’t see it improve, but I feel better with warmth.

  1. Sweating?

No sweating.

  1. Odors?

None.

  1. What is most striking, peculiar or identifying about your condition?

I don’t know.  How terrible I feel.  How similar this is to the last time.

  1. Is there a diagnosis?

No.  Maybe  Covid.

  1. Describe your energy–

Quiet, dull, prostrated.  I can hardly get to the bathroom and back.  I am dizzy.

  1. What does your tongue look like?

White coated.

  1. If you have a cough…

No cough.

  1. If you haven’t already said if you’re hotter or colder than usual?

Freezing with chills and shivers.  My daughter just said she could feel the heat coming off me when I walked by.  My hands and feet are really cold.

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9/21, 8:34 pm—Marcia, let’s try _______________200C.  Put a pellet into a half-filled bottle of water, 5 succussions before each dose, take a dose every 15 minutes (because of how severe it is) until you notice a response, then stop.

9/22, 10:37 am—Elaine, the ______________ helped.  I slept better last night.  Temp now is down to 99.7.  Throat is better.  Right nostril is better, but still a lot of sinus congestion.  Some of it seems to be moving into my lungs.

My head is still the thing.  Changing position magnifies the pain.  Going from standing to sitting is actually the worst.  It is a good minute or two of just pounding, throbbing in the top of my head.  Then it settles to a more tolerable level.  Changing from sitting to standing hurts too but not as bad.

Still thirstless, but urinating a lot.  Not eating.  Sitting outside now.  I feel better out here.

I want to lie down and rest but my head hurts then almost too much to rest. 

9/22, 4:14 pm—Updating since this morning.  I have continued to do better.  My head was a bit better for a while, but now I’m noticing it worsening again so I just took another dose of ______________.

No fever now.  I have been sweating profusely all day.  Still thirstless and not hungry.  Less achey and feeling a bit more normal.  Not so exhausting to be standing.

9/22, 9:03 pm— I haven’t gotten any better this evening.  I dosed again just now.  My head is not as bad as it was this morning and yesterday, but not as good as it was earlier this afternoon.

Starting to feel a little chilly and not able to blow anything out now.  Just a general sense of not feeling as well, but it is nearing the end of the day for me.

Since I just took it again I’ll see how I feel the next 15 minutes and increase the frequency to see if it helps. 

9/22, 9:31 pm—Marcia, do you have ______________1M?  If not, plus your 200C bottle three times.

9/22, 11:23 pm—I took the 1M.  My temp now is 98.7.  My head is better now too.  I went and sat down and then got up just to make sure!  So hopefully this continues.  I’m very tired so I am going to go to bed now. 

9/23, 6:21 am—Perfect!  So it really was ____________!  Yay!!!!  We just had to get the potency right!  Those high potencies are so crucial in acute cases!  Glad you’re feeling better!

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OK, everybody, that’s it!  If you know the remedy, write to me at [email protected].  The answer will be in next month’s ezine.  Now, as promised, another Ivy Joe Hunter composition, this time by The Temptations–a masterpiece, one of my favorites!

“Born To Love You”

I could listen to this all day!

The Temptations

 

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Votes:

Gelsemium-6

Belladonna-2 

Rhus Tox

Arsenicum   

 

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Hi everybody!  We’re back!  And ready to talk about last month’s quiz.  I’m ready for the first contestant to enter and sign-in please!

Hi Elaine!!

It’s Pam!

Oh gosh, having just had this blasted Covid myself, and recognizing that this lady had much the same symptoms as “Mitch” and I had, I know this must be GELSEMIUM!!  The mental dullness, the horrid headache in the back of the head, the BRUISED feeling all over, and….the DROOPY EYES!  I remember you telling me THAT was a keynote for GELSEMIUM.

I saw Gelsemium symptoms in the case too.  And I guess they could throw anyone off.

So…..am I correct ???

No.

WHAT?????  It’s not Gelsemium???  Huh?  BUUUUT…….

Oh geez!  Here we go again!!!!!  Look, Pam, here’s the thing:  Gelsemium has no trouble lying down, it’s one of the few things they do right!  They call Gelsemium “the great paralyzer”.  In fact, Gelsemium simply wants to lie down and go to sleep.  But Marcia cannot lie down!  This is perhaps the most striking thing in the case!  She is so much worse for lying down!  This should tell us something.

But so many symptoms point to it.  Huh?  Ugh!  Well then, my answer would be RHUS TOX, if the only symptom that counts is “worse for lying down”, but…..I still do not understand why the bruised feeling all over  (Gels), DROOPY EYES (GELS!), and occiput headache….as she said “back of the head” pain, AND mental DULLNESS (Gels) does not count?

Pam, let’s pick out the elements of the case, shall we?  I’ll post the case right here, and pick rubrics out as we go:

Questionnaire

Name: Marcia of Queensberry

Age: 50

Male or Female: female

Weight: 160

Height: 5’4″

Date: 9/21/22

Email Address: [email protected]

Describe the complaint

Yesterday afternoon I began to sneeze a lot.  My daughter has the same thing, so I thought it was a cold.  I had a stuffy nose when I went to bed and did not sleep well.  My throat was sore as well.  I could hardly breathe and kept waking up choking on drainage.  I took a hot shower before bed, which helped some.  I then took Rhus T 200, but didn’t notice much.

Well, Pam, it seems she’s already taken Rhus tox!

Today things went down hill.  I had a fever by lunch time.  I am freezing to death.

We’re going to take

“Fevers: chilliness, with”.

I woke with a feeling of drainage in my throat and kept having to clear my throat.  Still sneezing some, clear mucus, with a completely stuffed up right nostril.

We’re going to take right-sided complaints.

“Generals: sides, right”.

Throat is still awful, so I cannot eat.  I feel awful and have the terrible headache again when I lay down.

“Generals: lying down agg.”

I have terrible body aches as well.

We’re going to take our flu rubric because there’s no covid rubric in the Repertory, but they’re both viruses.  And why are we doing this?  It’s so we cover all the common symptoms of any virus, like “body aches”, with just one rubric instead of having to take each symptom individually.  So, using Murphy’s Repertory:

“Clinical: influenza”

I tried the Covid nosode, but again didn’t notice much.  I feel too bad to think what else to do.  Temp is currently 101.9.  I am urinating a lot,

“Bladder: urination, frequent, fever, during”

not matching how little I am drinking.  I am also very gassy, which is odd.

I’m not sure what to do with this information.  Does she mean she’s burping?  Bloated?  Not sure where to go with this so I’m going to skip it.

The worst is the body aches, all over,

That’s covered under our having taken the “Influenza” rubric, as I said before.

and the headache.

Headache is also covered under the heading “Influenza”.  If we read further down, we might find out that there is something peculiar about the headache that we can use.

Sweet Lord, help my head.  I cannot even think with this.  It is in the temples, but also the back of my head.  I am weak and feverish, so I want to lie down, but then I hurt so much and putting my head on the pillow is torture.

We’ve already taken “lying down agg.”

Just like before when I had this.  I also hate the stuffy nose.  It is stuffy and running (clear).

Nose obstruction and running covered under “Influenza”.  These are all common virus symptoms.

Etiology–

I think it may be Covid.  Not sure yet.  Had to have a PCR test, the long one. Negative for Strep.  They had no flu tests.

Sensation–

My head is throbbing, especially when I lay down.

OK, now we’re getting somewhere!  The headache is throbbing; so, we go to

“Headaches: throbbing, occiput”

“Headaches: throbbing, temples”

It is worse lying down.

We’ve already taken lying down agg.

It will just throb and I can feel my pulse in it.

The thing with lying down for her is that the throbbing gets worse.  And believe it or not, that’s a Keynote of a remedy, and, in fact, as soon as I saw that, I knew what the remedy was; but, we have no rubric that says, per se, Headaches: throbbing, lying agg.

We have Headaches: throbbing, lying, while.  I don’t think that’s the same thing.  Besides, that’s an under-populated rubric, kind of useless.  So, it’s a shame that all I can do is take the rubric from Generals, “lying agg.”

Body aches, just feel like I am bruised maybe all over and it hurts to touch my own skin.

We can take

“Generals: touch agg.”

We could take Generals: sore, pain; but, with over 300 remedies there, it pretty much means that any remedy could cover this symptom.

Nose is completely blocked on right side.

We’ve already taken right-sided complaints; and blocked nose is a pretty common symptom that’s not going to lead us to a remedy, it’s more significant that it’s only on the right side.

Appearance–

I look terrible – like I’m strung out on something.  My eyes are somewhat droopy.  I didn’t sleep though because of the discomfort.  Eyes are half open.

We can take

“Eyes: open, half-open”

Location–where on the body is your complaint located?

Head- for the headache and the body aches are all over.  There isn’t an inch of my body that isn’t screaming.  Right nostril.

Modalities–

Aches are better for warmth.  I sat outside in the heat a long time earlier.  I cannot stand the fan or AC.  I just shiver.  I also am hating cold drinks or food.

We can take

“Generals: warm, temperature, amel.”

Concomitants

I am tired and feel defeated.  I cannot believe I am this sick again.  I am in training and this is messing up everything.

Discharges–

Nasal mucus is clear.

Generals–

I am frozen.  I am in some despair.

The mentals:

I am dull and kind of indifferent I think.  I am just so sick I can’t care about much else.

We could take Mind: dullness, but, almost all our remedies are there.

What have you been saying?

Nothing really.  Just that I feel really bad.  I feel like someone has been dashing me on rocks.

Again, muscle aches and pains are common virus symptoms and, therefore, covered by the rubric “Influenza”.

What are you doing?

Trying to drink, wishing I’d feel better.

Describe your thirst and appetite–

Not thirsty, except hoping sometimes it will help my throat.

We can take

“Food: Thirstless”

 

I have tried some hot drinks, but it doesn’t last.  My throat is not even really red either.

Fever?

It has been constant since it started and continues to go up.  I don’t see it improve, but I feel better with warmth.

Sweating?

No sweating.

So, we’ve got a dry fever.

“Fever: dry fever, heat”

Odors?

None.

Why do we ask this question?  Because some of our remedies are known for foul odors/bad breath; remedies like Pyrogen, Baptisia, Mercurius.

What is most striking, peculiar or identifying about your condition?

I don’t know.  How terrible I feel.  How similar this is to the last time.

Is there a diagnosis?

No.  Maybe  Covid.

Describe your energy–

Quiet, dull, prostrated.  I can hardly get to the bathroom and back.  I am dizzy.

I could take Vertigo: fever with; but, Vertigo is a little extreme.  It means the room is spinning around whereas dizziness can simply mean light-headedness; plus, it’s probably part and parcel with a fever.

What does your tongue look like?

White coated.

If you have a cough…

No cough.

If you haven’t already said if you’re hotter or colder than usual?

Freezing with chills and shivers.  My daughter just said she could feel the heat coming off me when I walked by.

Now, that’s the second keynote of the remedy I picked out and I can’t find it in the Repertory!  Grr!!!! 

My hands and feet are really cold.

And this is the 3rd keynote of the remedy I picked out.  That’s 3 keynotes in one case.

“Feet: cold, fever, during”

So, at long last we get to Repertorize, and the remedy is…..

Belladonna!  Whew!  Now, a homeopath actually doesn’t need to repertorize this case at all, because, look at what we’ve got going for us:

  1. Throbbing headache (“throbbing” is a Belladonna word, just like “stiff” is a Rhus tox word. Stiff can also be a Ruta word, but, Rhus tox gets better the more she moves; Ruta gets worse the more she moves!)
  2. Worse lying down. Belladonna is famous for this!!!  They cannot lie down because it makes the blood rush to their head and increases the throbbing that’s already there.
  3. Thirstless. People who see “thirstless” and think of Gelsemium should also be thinking of Belladonna.
  4. Dry heat, dry fever, heat that you can feel just being near the person, without even touching them.
  5. With all this heat, their feet are icy-cold! Why?  All the blood is rushing upward, leaving their feet with no warmth!
  6. Belladonna has high fevers, and yet, they want heat to feel better! A very similar remedy–Glonoine–wants cold!
  7. Right-sided complaints.

 

Hi again, Elaine! 🦉

Thank you for explaining what I should have paid attention to!  Yes, after reading your breakdown of especially the keynotes, I did decide it was Belladonna!  Initially, I was paying attention to all of the wrong symptoms. It is so hard to figure out what info is critical, and what info to ignore, but your explanations REALLY help!

Thanks!  Well, I’m not doing my job if I don’t adequately explain the crucial and vexing problem of which information matters in a case, and what do we ignore?  This is what trips everyone up!

I think I need to stop associating Belladonna with RED only.  When she said her throat was not red, I didn’t bother to think of Belladonna!  I should have realized it might be, as I frequently have used Belladonna for my THROBBING headaches — during which I can not lie down because the pain intensifies.

Well, there ya go!!!!!!

Dummy me for not realizing this remedy fit her case!

Well, Pam, there were hints of other remedies in the case, and like you said, hearing that her sore throat was NOT red can really bring you up short!  But, when you hear: Throbbing headache, can’t lie down…chilly with fever–seeks out warmth, worse for a draft; cold feet with fever, right-sided complaint….It looks an awful lot like Belladonna.

Thanks for voting!  And hey, everybody, be sure to check out “Mitch” again in this month’s Quiz!

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Will our next contestant enter and sign-in please!

Hi Elaine

It’s Neil from England!

There’s a lot in the case that suggests Belladonna to me:

painful throat.

throbbing head which is worse lying down

thirstlessness

right sided complaints

heat coming off body

cold feet and hands

Neil, UK

 

You’re right, Neil; I could not possibly have said it better!!!!

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Is anybody else here today?

Hi Elaine and Shana!

It’s Maria from Greece!!!

This month’s quiz got me thinking.  I can see keynotes for Belladonna, Gelsemium and Hepar.

Throbbing headache, radiating heat = Bell.

Dullness, indifference, thirstlessness, shivering, frozen=Gels.

Even touch is painful to her skin, frozen=Hepar.

I will vote for Gelsemium but if I am wrong I will try again.

You’re wrong so try again!

Hmmm.  I would try then Influenzinum.  (I think it is also called oscillococinum).

Maria, Influenzinum would most likely be for a non-descript flu with no characteristic symptoms to prescribe on, or when well-selected remedies were not working or holding.  Same for Oscillococcinum.  They’re not the same remedy, though.  Two distinct remedies.

I didn’t know that.  Ok, my 3rd vote goes to Belladonna.  If I am wrong I will try again! 😀

You’re not wrong so don’t try again!

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We have a new contestant with us today!

Hi Elaine….

Hi Edina!

First I thought of Eupatorium perf. because of the whole body pain with an all over bruised feeling,  but she was thirstless and stuffed up, with headache, miserable, so maybe Pulsatilla?  Actually,  I think Gelsemium would be better due to drowsy/strung out feeling, drooping eyelids and since Puls. is better with cold water not worse, I change my vote to Gelsemium.

You’re right that Pulsatilla would not be better for heat!  But, I think we have to be discerning here about the mental state.  A number of people who wrote in cited the “droopy” look (which Marcia of Queensberry said were only “somewhat” droopy, and you have to also remember that she hasn’t slept) and went for Gelsemium.  The fact is, anyone who is not sleeping is going to look at least “somewhat” droopy.  I don’t know if we can hang our hat on that.  The thing with Gelsemium is, all they do is sleep–and they still look droopy!  In Gelsemium, everything “sags”.

From Allen’s Keynotes:

“Complete relaxation and prostration of whole muscular system, with entire motor paralysis.”

You know you’ve got a Gelsemium patient when all they do is sleep.  Our patient can’t even lie down because her throbbing headache is so much worse for it, so, she hasn’t slept at all!  Consequently, she’s very tired, which is bound to make her look like a Gelsemium patient, but, I think we’d all look like Gelsemium patients under the circumstances.

When we take a case, we’re looking for remedy keynotes, and you thought you found one with the droopy eyes; but, there are very important keynotes of another remedy in this case that you missed and here they are:

  1. Throbbing headache < lying down.
  2. Fever with cold feet.
  3. Thirstless.
  4. Fever < draft, > warm temperatures.
  5. Fever, dry. Radiating a dry heat from the body.
  6. Right-sided complaints.

What this all adds up to is:  Belladonna!  Especially: throbbing headache < lying down.  When you see that, you should be thinking of Belladonna right away.  Glonoine has that too but they are worse heat, better cold, just the opposite of Belladonna.

Thank you for this explanation.  I didn’t think of Belladonna because it has never worked for headaches for us.

OK, in order for Belladonna to work, it has to be a certain KIND of headache, namely, a Belladonna Headache:

  1. Usually right-sided
  2. Usually throbbing
  3. Worse lying down
  4. Worse for cold or a draft
  5. Usually quite severe as in this quiz case
  6. Most likely came on suddenly
  7. Headache from the sun
  8. Thirstless
  9. Photophobia

I just remembered I did another quiz that had a Belladonna headache:

https://hpathy.com/clinical-cases/170303/

I based the gelsenium choice on the People’s Repertory by  Luc De Schepper and Homeopathy by Alan Schmukler.  Their MM on Gelsenium fit so well.  But I’m very new to homeopathy and don’t have many books. Always learning….

Good, you are to be commended for trying to solve the Quiz!  You can see all my Quizzes by going to hpathy.com and clicking on the search icon in the upper right corner, typing in the word “Revisiting”, and clicking “enter” on your keyboard.  All my Quizzes will come up.

Thanks for voting and do come back again!!!

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We have another new quiz-solver with us today!

Hi, Elaine

Hello, Dale!

Give that poor woman Gelsemium!  The only symptom of hers that doesn’t fit that remedy nicely is the throbbing headache that’s < lying down.

Oy vey!  That was the most important symptom in the case!  The most striking!

Gels. headaches are usually congestive, dull, and > sitting or lying with head raised.  Her headache sounds more like Phos.  One could make a case for that remedy, but I’d go with Gels. first.

Well, it can’t be Phosphorus because she’s thirstless and Phosphorus is very thirsty for ice cold drinks.  I think you’re just not sufficiently familiar with the keynotes of Belladonna.

Interesting… and embarrassing.  Obviously, I should have put time into studying this instead of just giving a knee-jerk reaction.  Another important symptom was that the woman was radiating heat, even while feeling cold internally.

Right, very good!  And cold feet with a fever is another big sign!

Peace,

Dale

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Hey, everybody, Vamsi’s in the house!!!!!

Dear Elaine,

How are you?

Pretty good, I guess.

Hope this email finds you well.

Had our big festival season of Diwali recently but back to your interesting quizzes now.

Etiology is not really clear so not mentioning it.

And then the

Mentals …

Not really seeing any, Vamsi.  She’s in despair, but, who wouldn’t be with a throbbing headache, no sleep, and body pains everywhere?

Severe Throbbing and Pulsating headache

That’s not really a “mental”, Vamsi.

Generals

  1. Whole body aches
  2. No thirst (very special of Belladonna even though heat rules this remedy)

It does!  And yet, they are cold!  Heat “rushes” to an area, usually the head, leaving the rest of the body cold–especially the feet.  So, if a person has a fever, checking to see if they have cold feet is a good way to confirm Belladonna.

  1. Symptoms on the right side ( Nose block )

Yes, good that you noticed she has right-sided complaints.

  1. Heat coming off (in Belladonna, we can feel the heat without touching the person)

Yes, they do radiate a dry heat.

  1. Pain comes on in rest. (very peculiar of Belladonna)

Now, by that do you mean “worse lying down”?  Because if so, yes, that is very true of Belladonna.

  1. Extremities are cold (Hands and feet, blood is rushing to the head).

Yes, exactly, you got it!

Nothing but BELLADONNA, my vote for it…(Throbbing Headaches and heat are ruling the case)

Very good, Vamsi!

Throbbing headache, worse lying down, better warm temperatures, worse cold, worse draft; cold feet, right-sided complaints, radiating dry heat and thirstless.

You know, when people see “thirstlessness” in a case, they often think of Pulsatilla but Pulsatilla would NOT be better for warmth or sitting out in the sun on a hot day.  And a lot of people would think of Gelsemium when they hear “thirstless”, but, Gelsemium has no trouble lying down, in fact, it’s the only thing they do really well!  They just want to sleep.  Also, being out in the sun is often the etiology in a Gelsemium case, especially if there is also humidity.  So, in this case of “thirstlessness”, the only remedy we can really confirm is Belladonna.

Thanks for voting!  Oh look, the gang from Slovakia is here!

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Hello Elaine and Shana,

Hello Miroslav and Jitka!

we send our answers which remedies  we chose for Marcia of Queensberry.

Miroslav answers as always briefly, because he is more experienced in homeo:

It should be Gelsemium: absence of thirst, chills, body aches, fever.  A Gelsemium patient can lie down with a headache, but the head must be placed high.

Jitka answers as follows:

I was thinking of Gelsemium while reading a new case, although I paused over some points in the questionnaire, that could indicate a different remedy.  Therefore, I preferred to read the chapter of Gelsemium in  MM  and there I confirmed most of the symptoms of the case of Marcia of Queensberry.

Gelsemium – fever with weakness , there is an absence of thirst, there is body ache,  muscle pain, sneezing, runny nose, stuffy nose, dullness, weakness and headache which may spread into neck and back and may be throbbing, movement feels difficult.  There are still other symptoms related to Gelsemium condition such as chills and  sore throat, with pain on swallowing, which may include sensation of lump in throat and difficulty swallowing.

Thanks, Miroslav and Jitka.  Well, Gelsemium seems to be the favorite this month, but, actually, it was Belladonna.  You missed some Belladonna keynotes here:  Fever with cold feet, fever with dry heat radiating off the body, right-sided complaints (right nostril stopped up), but mainly, throbbing headache, worse lying down.  That’s a very big sign for Belladonna, they are worse lying down.  Gelsemium can lie down very well, in fact, all they want to do is sleep.  “Throbbing” is a Belladonna word.   When we hear, “Throbbing headache, worse lying down”, our very first thought should be, “Belladonna!!!”

Thanks for voting!

I think it’s time to congratulate our two Belladonna winners:  Vamsi and Neil, come on down!  You’re the winners of the October Quiz!!!!

 

Bye, see you in a month!

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Elaine Lewis, DHom, CHom

Elaine takes online cases. Write to her at [email protected]

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Elaine Lewis

Elaine Lewis, D.Hom., C.Hom.
Elaine is a passionate homeopath, helping people offline as well as online. Contact her at [email protected]
Elaine is a graduate of Robin Murphy's Hahnemann Academy of North America and author of many articles on homeopathy including her monthly feature in the Hpathy ezine, "The Quiz". Visit her website at:
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Shana Lewis

Shana spices up the Hpathy Quiz with her timely announcements and reviews on the latest in pop culture. Her vast knowledge of music before her time has inspired the nickname: "Shanapedia"!

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