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Revisiting: SOS After Fainting

Mara fainted and fell on her teeth! Scroll down to see the answer.

Hi everybody, and welcome to the Hpathy Quiz!

Hi, Shana!

Happy Birthday, Mom… and Happy Father’s Day to Daddy…

Thanks, Shana!

And now on to important news.

Hey!  What could be more important than my birthday????

Mom, I think you will happy to hear, that at long last, The Spinners were chosen to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

You’re right, that IS more important than my birthday!

Unfortunately, most of the original members (except for Henry Fambrough and John Edwards) are gone now.  (In the picture above, Henry and John are seated next to each other.)

Stupid Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame, waiting ’til everybody’s dead!

I also read something on Facebook about Henry retiring, and John was already retired; so, you might say it’s about time.

I’d call it long overdue.

This is also the 50th anniversary of their 1973 debut album simply titled “Spinners”.

It featured the very hits that launched them into the stratosphere, “I’ll Be Around” and “Could It Be I’m Falling In Love” on Atlantic.

Though I should hasten to add that the Spinners were on Motown previously with hits like “It’s A Shame” and “Truly Yours”.  Gee…I wonder if the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame knows about G.C. Cameron who sang lead on “It’s A Shame”?  Probably not.

Here’s a very rare live performance with GC Cameron singing lead on “It’s a Shame”, which, I hear, was written by Stevie Wonder.  It looks like one of TJ Lubinsky’s live shows on PBS.

GC Cameron and The Spinners are a lot older in this video, I’m sure their Motown years were never filmed, and GC’s voice may be a little rusty with age now; but all the same, we’re lucky to have this—thanks to TJ Lubinsky and Public Television’s tireless efforts at saving and preserving the pioneers of Rock and Roll:

So, I found this apropos comment listed under the video, and I think it says everything:

@aldeb456

11 years ago

One of the most underrated R&B groups of all time!!  19 #1 hits!!!  (The Jackson 5 was the only group to have more.)  They never won a Grammy and are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame!  ‘It’s a Shame’!!

 Hear, hear!

 So even though it’s too late for original lead singer, Bobbie Smith, to get recognition

it’s still kind of special that the induction looms in the 50th year of their first major hits.  I believe the ceremony airs on HBO but I haven’t heard a date yet.

Other people being inducted this year are the late George Michael, Chaka Khan and Bernie Taupin (Musical Excellence Award).  It’s certainly about time Bernie, Elton John’s lyricst, got recognition!

I knew it!  Elton John seems to magically appear in every issue of the Hpathy ezine!!!

He does not!!!  Which brings me to my next announcement.  It’s the 50th anniversary of “Don’t Shoot Me, I’m Only the Piano Player”.

Aaaah!!!!!!  Shana!!!!!!!!

Known for the hit “Daniel”, which actually has an interesting story attached.

I’m sure it does!!!!!!!

Apparently Bernie Taupin had read an article about a wounded Vietnam veteran who wanted to avoid the attention his home-coming would bring, but the last verse of the song was cut which led to a lot of speculation about it’s contents.

That’s it?  That’s your interesting story????

Oh, and Mom, are you sitting down?

Yes….

Tina Turner died.

What????  OMG!!!

You sat on this story the whole time you were prattling on about Elton John and “Don’t Shoot Me I’m Only The Piano Player”????  Did you realize she was the Queen of Rock and Roll????

It’s rather ironic that the year she dies there’s a new Pringles commercial that features her song, “The Best”.

Yes, that is the height of irony!   (Not!)

I caught it on TV recently.

Do you want to talk about irony?  It’s ironic that Ike Turner, her husband, the man who made her famous, was also the man who nearly ruined her career with his abusive behavior; in fact, a movie was made about her life:

Possibly 2 movies.  Anyway, we have to put our bitterness towards Ike Turner aside and remember their music.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Ike and Tina Turner with “I Think It’s Gonna Work Out Fine”:

 

And now, everybody, it is definitely…Showtime! 

 

Who’s in the Quiz this month, Mom?

Mara Laggo.

Who?  Mara Laggo???  Isn’t that the name of Donald Trump’s beach-front golf resort and country club?

No, Shana; that’s Mar-a-Lago.  This is Mara Laggo!

Ohhhhhhhh……  Right…  So what’s wrong with her?

I’m so glad you asked!  She fainted for some reason and landed on her teeth!

What???  Ouch! 

I know!  Can you think of anything worse?  Well, we managed to save all of them but one.  But the dentist didn’t do such a stellar job, I’ll tell ya that!

Well great, that’s just great!

Here’s what Mara said:

 

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Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2023 4:06 am

Subject: SOS after fainting

Elaine, I know it’s late but hoping you will know what to do.

Sorry I kept you waiting.

I fainted a couple hours ago and took a hard fall.  I don’t remember falling or what was hit but my husband said I was just face down on the floor.

I took Arnica, but nothing else.  I think Nat-s would be a good idea, but what else?  My head doesn’t hurt, but I cannot feel a number of my teeth. I’m very scared I have damaged them.  What can help?

Let’s try Hypericum and if that doesn’t work, Calendula.  Then, like you said, consider Nat-sulph and let me know what happens.

I have tried all of them, but nothing has made a difference.  My teeth are still numb and my whole jaw hurts at this point. 😞 I’m wondering if it’s broken.

Now let’s try Bellis perennis.

I took it and there’s less soreness now but I still can’t feel my teeth.  I’m really scared I’m going to lose them.

My husband made me go to the hospital.  It was a long time and an IV and scan but they found nothing.  Said I was dehydrated.  Interesting that for me, the Bellis is very slow acting and while there at the ER, I continued to see improvement until I’m left with what is mostly an issue in just one tooth.  I am still sore in my jaw and chin but much better.  So I’m repeating Bellis now.  It was a 200C.

Last night I had taken Arnica in 10M and I have no marks.  You cannot see one bruise or bump.  I actually wondered if they thought I was lying.  How do you do a total face plant on the floor and have no marks?  I’ll update tomorrow. Very tired tonight.

 

Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2023 7:10 pm

Subject: Re: SOS after fainting

I think I’ll try more of the Bellis perennis unless you have another suggestion.  Teeth are better, except for the left front one which is numb while also being painful with pressure.  Do I need Hypericum again?

If the tooth is loose, I would take Calendula.

Calendula did not help.  Taking Ruta now and heading to bed.  I’ll update tomorrow.

Ten days later….

Things had been going along and getting better, but since yesterday it has been awful and nothing is helping.

That one tooth is still sensitive and feels weird, but now my whole jaw started to hurt on that side. It is just a terrible constant throbbing and chewing is very painful.  Lots of popping of my jaw when I open and close. The jaw is the worst thing.

I saw the dentist and they said my tooth has a concussion and nothing visible is happening.  It is not loose and has no cracks.  The jaw they thought was just from soft tissue damage.

Arnica, Ruta, and Hypericum are not helping.  I was last taking Symphytum as needed.  It is no longer helping either.  I am in misery.

Please help!

Mag-phos 6X four times a day.

I am a little better today.  No constant pain.  Still struggling to eat.  Biting down with the tooth and chewing hurt.  I can chew on the left side to eat.  I find I am wanting to shift my jaw to chew.

My coffee did send me through the roof this morning.  So I guess both hot and cold bother it now.  I guess that is good as the nerve must be working like it should?  I do hope it doesn’t  stay like this.  Only room temperature drinks, which sounds dull in the long term.

Not sure when to dose again?

Mara, try succussing your bottle 10 times, take another dose, and see what that does.

I took it about an 90 minutes ago.  I haven’t seen any further improvement and am starting to go backwards.

Let’s go to Causticum 30C.

The pain has been better today after the Causticum.  I am hoping it will last and I have turned the corner.

Four Days Later….

I took another dose a while ago.  It is not helping so far.  My tooth was hurting more before I took it.

Now since taking, it has begun to throb again.  I can actually feel my pulse in my tooth.  It’s super weird.  Also, any touch or pressure is a throbbing pain.

I don’t get it.  I definitely don’t feel I took it too soon.  This is decidedly worse though.  I was so encouraged today….

You need to do the Aggravation Zapper for the exact dose of causticum that aggravated and do it in the 6th cup.

I’m better but I’m very worried about my tooth.  I think the nerve and pulp may be dying as it seems to be changing color to more gray now.  There is a noticeable difference.  Is there any other remedy that may help with that?  I hate the thought of further dental intervention.  I wish I could save it.

 

Sent: Sun, May 7, 2023 11:29 am

Subject: Re: SOS after fainting

 

Sorry, we’ve had a lot going on with my father in law who is not doing well.

My tooth is such a pain.  I have started to have an aggravation nearly immediately after taking a dose.  I then zap it and it is fine.  I started using less succussions, but it was still happening.

However, today it just isn’t working.  No difference, even an aggravation.

At this point I’m back to the extreme sensitivity.  Even the air of my breath makes the tooth hurt.  It is a throbbing pain – sometimes I can feel a pulse there.  Cold and hot drinks make it worse and can cause a sharp pain.

Some other things I’ve noticed are that I wake up feeling better.  It goes down hill from there.  I’m thinking I am not moving my mouth during that time, so maybe better rest?

In spite of the sensitivity, food doesn’t bother it as much as drink, whatever the temp.  Strangely, after eating it is not worse.  I can’t say better, but not worse.  There is slight redness above the tooth.  The tooth is slightly gray.

I feel any movement and any touch is worse.  My tongue, and touching my face outside the tooth are both worse.  Any idea what to do next?  I am losing hope.

Belladonna 30C.  Try that and let me know what happens.

The Belladonna helped.  I feel that waiting for a relapse is not helping me move forward so I’m going to take another dose.

Second dose only helped for a bit and it is taking away the worst symptoms of the throbbing, redness, and extreme sensitivity.

However, the tooth is still very sore if touched or even shifting my mouth. Drinks hot or cold aren’t as bad but still aren’t good.  Should I try a 200? I’m so desperate to make some head way.  I see the dentist again next week and I think he’ll want to do more.

Yes, try 200C.

Anyway, I cannot figure out this tooth.  I have never had so much trouble managing with a remedy – as in when to take it again, etc.

Moved  up to Bell 200, and it helped that initial dose.  I felt symptoms returning this morning with increased pain when I washed my face and more sensitivity with drinks again.  I took a dose and it got worse.  I took the zapper and it improved for a while.  I was busy at work and noticed on the way home it was worsening again.  I took another dose after succussing the bottle and it’s not any better, but not worse.

You know, Mara, this constant relapsing like this, it usually means there’s a block in the case; in other words, there’s something going on physically that either can’t be corrected or can only be corrected by surgical intervention.

Well, Elaine, I guess you were right.  I went to my dentist appointment today and the dentist informed me that the nerve was almost completely dead and I had to get a root canal.  I think my sinus may have been punctured, it feels weird; stuffy and very tender to the touch.

Try ________________30C.

Elaine, sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner, it’s been mayhem around here.  With regard to my post-root canal issue, it’s gone.  It was much improved the next morning (after the remedy) and by the end of the next day it was all gone.  I never had to repeat it.

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OK, everybody, that’s it!!!!  Very long, I apologize, but, maybe you have an idea now of what an incurable case looks like.

So if you know what the remedy is, write to me at [email protected].  The answer will be in next month’s ezine.

Oh, and in honor of The Spinners getting into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, finally….  Here they are now.  RIP, Bobbie, you finally made it!

 

See you in July!

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Votes

Chamomilla-2

Ledum-3

Hypericum

Coffea

 

I can only say that it appears that just about everyone was stumped by this case!  Fortunately, the gang from Slovakia is here!

Hello Elaine and Shana,

Hello Miroslav and Jitka!

Here are our answers to your very difficult quiz, although we think this way about most of your new cases…:)

I guess all cases are difficult!  Well, almost.

Miroslav suggests: Chamomilla

So this is a really complicated case, I would maybe try some routine toothache remedy (since the arsenal of remedies that could have worked but they didn´t, is blessed…)

Chamomilla or then probably Bryonia, as the movement of her jaw caused her the most pain… But I’m inclined to think more on Chamomilla, this remedy has very hypersensitive nerves and it is almost impossible to get rid of the pain.

About six months ago, I had a case of a client who had very severe pain after dental treatment, which spread all over the head… I also tried routine dental remedies and finally Hepar sulfur helped almost immediately.

But now I’m guessing Chamomilla.

Jitka too suggests Chamomilla:

I honestly didn’t know what other remedy to look for when you’ve used almost every major toothache remedy.  In addition, I got stuck when translating a phrase: “My coffee did send me through the roof this morning”, although I more or less understood the meaning, I couldnˇt find a comprehensible phrase in our language.  I was thinking so much about how to translate it until it dawned on me that I should check the chapter Teeth, the rubric pain, coffee, from and there were several remedies, but only CHAMOMILlA in bold, an excellent remedy for toothache.  So my choice is Chamomilla.  But who knows, maybe I misunderstood the case, which evolved from one remedy to another.

You know what?  I get the impression that you and Miroslav were looking for remedies that covered the whole case from the beginning, when, in fact, the case was only about the botched surgery at the end—the root canal surgery that felt like a stabbing to the sinus area, worse touch.  So, I’m thinking: Ailments from Surgery, Teeth: neurological pain, sharp pain and touch agg.  So, the remedy that comes up for that is Staphysagria.

You know, you’d think it would be Hypericum, since it involves nerve damage and removal of the nerve from the tooth; but Hypericum is actually not listed under “touch aggravates”!  And “worse touch” was a very important part of this case!  Staphysagria is extremely sensitive to touch!

About Chamomilla, it would be hard to prescribe this remedy without the famous mentals being there.  The Chamomilla pains make the patient snappish, cross, uncivil, angry, irritable, fretful, whiny, petulant….  Our patient seems to have her composure, despite everything.

Oh, and the coffee sending her through the roof meant that hot drinks aggravated.  And I think she said that both hot and cold aggravated.  But again, we weren’t concerned with that, only with the bad after-effects of surgery.  Thanks for voting!

I sense that Pam is here.

 

Hi Elaine! 👋

Hi, Pam!

Oh WOW, I just finished reading the quiz and oh my gosh, what a twist ending!!  Huh?

Is this ALL ABOUT…..her sinus perhaps having been. PUNCTURED????

Yes, it’s all about an inartful surgery!

And NOTHING about all about the other info re the tooth and the fall and the fainting itself?????

That’s right.  Bellis perennis was very effective at undoing most of that trauma.

If so, and ONLY if I am correct…I think I may have the answer based on the PUNCTURE….

I say it is LEDUM!

Actually, Nora Steinfeld agrees with you.  She voted for Ledum too.  (By the way, I loved her show, “Steinfeld”; didn’t you?)

Plus, Elaine, Ledum has aggravation from both COLD and WARM drinks.

That’s not part of the case anymore; but, although Ledum was a good guess, we really don’t know if there really was a “puncture wound” per se or if it was a “sensation” caused by the surgery (according to some research I’ve done, only if the root canal has been done on a back tooth could a sinus have been punctured).  We only know there’s a “sharp sensation” (I couldn’t find “puncture sensation” in Generals so I went with “sharp”) and we also have to add “worse touch” to that.  So, I’m figuring, we need an “ailments from surgery” remedy, a tooth/nerve remedy, and a sharp pain sensation that’s worse touch.  So, here’s my repertorization:

As you can see, Belladonna and Staphysagria are tied for first place.  Since Belladonna 200C was the last remedy she took, I’m more inclined to start with Staphysagria than repeat something I just gave; and besides, Staphysagria is very well known for being worse touch, very sensitive to touch.  Usually, after surgery, if there is a painful incision, the very first thought we should have is Staphysagria; so, I was very anxious to try that.

I just saw the word punctured and remembered Ledum.

You know, that’s very interesting, since you bring it up.  She does use the word “punctured”, but I believe it’s a “sensation”.  We don’t know if she’s actually been punctured.  In fact, since Staphysagria was the right remedy, I would have to say that that’s proof that she was NOT punctured, because Staphysagria is not listed under Puncture Wounds.

Also, “Ailments From Puncture Wounds” does not necessarily mean that a pain is involved!  For example, Ledum is the main remedy for Ailments From mosquito bites, but the mosquito puncture (bite) has no pain.  Our patient has a lot of pain, a sharp pain, and it is worse touch.  So this should be our thought: nerve/tooth, ailments from surgery, sharp pain worse touch.  That’s it, that’s our case.  “Worse touch” was all-important.

I hope people noticed the invaluable role played by Bellis Perennis in this case, how it finally saved all her teeth but one when all the other remedies seemed to fail or fall short.  After that we were dealing with the one tooth only.  Here’s what our patient said about Bellis perennis.

“Interesting that for me, the Bellis is very slow acting and while there at the ER, I continued to see improvement until I’m left with what is mostly an issue in just one tooth.  I am still sore in my jaw and chin but much better.  So I’m repeating Bellis now.  It was a 200C.”

Did I not recently do an article on Bellis perennis?  Maybe it was called something like, “Arnica Didn’t Work; Now What?” (Tidbits 98)  I guess this case would be like adding an exclamation point to that article!

So, the next thing I want people to notice is how we kept changing remedies and every dose of almost every remedy aggravated and relapsing was constant, and then repetition wouldn’t work, and the Aggravation Zapper was constantly being called for and she said, “I have never had so much trouble with remedies before!”  In fact, here’s what she said:

“Anyway, I cannot figure out this tooth.  I have never had so much trouble managing with a remedy – as in when to take it again, etc.”

What I wanted people to see was what a hopeless case looked like!  Incurable, as it were; where nothing is possible but “palliation”—which I think Pam asked me about once:  “What is palliation?”  It means all you can do is put out “brush fires”, and it gets harder and harder to do, because there is something physical going on that cannot be corrected and requires the intervention of a surgeon; or that there exists a “maintaining cause”, and you have to find it and remove it, or the case will keep relapsing and the remedy picture will keep changing.  That was later confirmed at the next dental appointment where the tooth was pronounced nearly dead.  That was the maintaining cause.

But yes, please observe, everyone, an incurable case—this is what it looks like, go back and read it again.  We went through, how many remedies that at first worked, and then stopped working?  Belladonna, Causticum, Mag-phos., Symphytum, Bellis perennis….and most of them aggravated at first, and then didn’t work at all.  Symptoms constantly changed (unstable case.)  This is what it looks like.  Go to the doctor; as I told Mara, you might need surgery.

I did tell the story of a very painful tooth I once had where homeopathy performed surgery!  It was in Tidbits 87: “Tooth Talk”:

“I will give you one example.  I had a bad tooth, an infected tooth, a very loose tooth, that I had been coddling and pampering [palliating] for a long time.  One day I hit a crisis point with it.  It was very painful, but I couldn’t discern an abscess, so I didn’t really know what to do for it!  I tried one thing and another…with no luck.  Finally I had an epiphany (probably due to the extreme pain): “This tooth is dead!”  I had the intuition to take Arnica 200C.  (I had probably remembered reading that Arnica expels dead fetuses.)  Within minutes, the pain abruptly stopped!!!!!  I was overjoyed!  I touched the tooth, no pain!!!  I then realized, it was no longer attached!  It had been ejected!  It lifted right out!!!!!!  Arnica had performed a homeopathic extraction!  I was spared an endless agony!”

 

Hi Elaine and Shana!

For this month I will vote for Hypericum.  I know she tried it before, but after the root canal I think it would work.  If I am wrong I will try again or if I have to find a remedy that was not used before.

Hi Maria!

Here’s what’s wrong with Hypericum.  Even though it does make a lot of sense, there’s an important modality in this case that Hypericum doesn’t cover; namely, “touch agg.”  I believe the patient’s exact words were, “Very tender to the touch”.  If you go to “Generals: touch agg.”, you won’t find Hypericum there at all.  I actually felt that “worse touch” was the most important clue in the case.  Besides that, other clues might be, “Ailments from surgery”, “Teeth: neuraglic pain” (since it was all about injury to the nerve of a tooth), and the sensation, which she defined as a “puncture”, but I couldn’t find “puncture sensation” in Generals; so, I went with “Generals: sharp, pains”.  And that was all I had.  But “sensitive to touch” was my main consideration.

Ok, my second vote goes to Staphysagria then.  I was between Staph. and Hyper. in the first place anyway.

Oh wow.  Yes, it is Staphysagria!!!

Amazing how it cured the whole case, isn’t it?  One dose of 30C and it never had to be repeated!  Compare that with all the futile attempts at curing the original case with so many remedy states, aggravations and constant relapsing….  And why?  Because it was it was an incurable case!  I thought it would be a good lesson for everyone, to be able to see what an incurable case looks like, when “palliation” is all you can do.

Yes it was a difficult quiz and indeed a great lesson!  Teeth pains are the most difficult quizzes, I think.

Yes, very difficult; but, as a reminder, look at how great Bellis perennis turned out to be!  It saved all but one tooth!  Ailments from blunt trauma and Arnica didn’t work, think of Bellis perennis.  Arnica dealt with some superficial swelling and bruising, and I believe she tried Hypericum, Ruta, Calendula and Symphytum as well to no avail. So, a big shout-out to Bellis Perennis!!!  Let’s hear it!

Thank you Elaine!

Well, we didn’t exactly have a winner; but…Maria at least did have Staphysagria listed in second place, so, way to go, Maria, you came close!  We’ll see you back here again in a month for another great and fabulous Hpathy Quiz!

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Elaine Lewis, DHom, CHom

Elaine takes online cases. Write to her at [email protected]

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Elaine Lewis

Elaine Lewis, D.Hom., C.Hom.
Elaine is a passionate homeopath, helping people offline as well as online. Contact her at [email protected]
Elaine is a graduate of Robin Murphy's Hahnemann Academy of North America and author of many articles on homeopathy including her monthly feature in the Hpathy ezine, "The Quiz". Visit her website at:
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Shana Lewis

Shana spices up the Hpathy Quiz with her timely announcements and reviews on the latest in pop culture. Her vast knowledge of music before her time has inspired the nickname: "Shanapedia"!

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