Revisiting: Would You Be Sad If I Hung Myself?

Mom, it’s time for the Quiz!

Did you know this year is Motown’s 60th Anniversary?

I did not know that! That would make Motown as old as I am!

Mom, don’t look now, but, you left 60 behind a long time ago!

(Shh!!!! People think I’m young! And I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten away with it!)

I read that Berry Gordy, the founder of Motown Records, is retiring at 89.

I’m surprised he’s retiring at such a young age! His co-founder, Smokey Robinson, is still out there singing!

There was a documentary on Showtime earlier this year called “Hitsville: The Making of Motown”. We probably should watch it.

Shana, what’s the most iconic song on Motown Records?

“My Girl” by The Temptations?

Written by who?

Smokey Robinson. And Mom? It’s “by whom.” “Whom” follows a preposition. I’ve tried to explain that to you.

Aaaaah!!!!

Here it is now–My Girl by the Temptations!

Speaking of Anniversaries, this year the Beatles’ Abbey Road turned 50.

As some people might know, it’s the last album the Beatles did before breaking up. “Let It Be” was the last album released but recorded before “Abbey Road”!

I had no idea! You’re such a wealth of information!

Anyway, a Super Deluxe edition of “Abbey Road” (with additional session recordings and demos, etc.) has been released. This is what WXPN’s Helen Leicht was playing on her show. Now, I’m not a recording engineer …

Gasp!!!!!

…so I have no clue how any of this differs from the original 1969 release; but, I do know that “Her Majesty”

was originally part of the “medley” but Paul wanted it out. That’s one of the many things I learned from Scott Freiman. Apparently Paul didn’t like the way the medley sounded with the inclusion of this extra song (between “Mean Mr. Mustard” and “Polythene Pam”) and I kind of agree with him.

Shana, you’re rambling.

On the actual album “Her Majesty” plays after the end after a few seconds of silence. As I also learned from Scott Freiman, one of the engineers (John Kurlander) was instructed not to throw anything away. On the remixed version there’s an additional disc with “Her Majesty” as part of the medley as originally intended.

Oh, and did I mention it was remixed by George Martin’s son Giles?

No, and I think the commotion you hear is Pakistan leaving the building! India left hours ago!

There are two other deluxe albums he remixed (Sgt Pepper and the White Album.)

Do tell. Shana, I have a plane to catch!

You do not! And I have a death to announce which is rather sad and then we can start the quiz, OK? The Simpsons lost one of it’s longtime producers recently. His name was J. Michael Mendel and he was on the show since the very first season.

Turns out he was also a producer on “the PJs” for 34 of the 40 or so episodes, apparently there were some episodes that were un-aired, which is a shame.

Wow! I wish someone would put them out!

You can start the quiz now.

Really??? Well, hooray!!!!

We have a fantastic quiz this month!

One of our favorite Quiz participants, Linda, is here with us today, to present a case of her own! She will tell us about her grand daughter and how she cured her of suicidal depression among other things using homeopathy. Linda, where are you?

Thanks, Elaine, for letting me take over The Quiz and present my case! I will call it:

“Janelle”

Janelle, my grand daughter, is normally a happy, bubbly, giggly 16-year-old but, unfortunately, like the rest of us in our family, she has symptoms of all the main miasms.

And by “miasms”, we mean inherited dispositions to get “sick” in certain ways. Sorry. Do continue.

She was held back a year and had to repeat kindergarten for learning problems. At age ten, she was having problems reading, doing arithmetic and she also had a cluster of warts on her hand. So I took her to see our local homeopath. Palladium was prescribed and cleared up the warts but the homeopath didn’t want to prescribe anything for her learning problems, saying we should not be trying to turn Janelle into someone she isn’t…

A normal person.

…that we should simply encourage her to do the things she likes to do, namely, singing and dancing.

Right, because there are so many job openings in that field!

I disagreed for sure. I see no reason why Janelle couldn’t use both halves of her brain. So, being an amateur homeopath, I bought my own Repertory.

Which one?

Murphy’s; and found that Lycopodium is listed for three of Janelle’s problems: dyslexia, bad breath and yellow teeth. I gave her the 1M but it did nothing. The 10m improved all three symptoms…

Wow! We forget how important finding the right potency is! You could have easily given up at 1M!

…but she still couldn’t do arithmetic. To this day, she’s still in Special Ed. I don’t know if she has ever learned to read in keeping with her grade level.

At age 15, she still had such problems in math that she couldn’t tell you what half of twelve is.

Oh, wait! I know!!!!!

That’s very good, Elaine. And you’re, how old?

Uhhhh…..!

That’s what I thought. So… I noticed her eyes were often dilated and she had developed various obsessions. Flying home from vacation, she said she felt claustrophobic.

Last spring, still 15 years old, Janelle was spending the night with me and we were enjoying our usual movie and popcorn. Janelle went to use the bathroom and when she came back, she asked me, “Grandma, would you be really sad if I hung myself?”

Kids say the darndest things…. But, holy cow!!!!

Talk about a horrible shock! I was shaken and heartbroken. Her uncle (my younger son) had been through years of “mental illness,” so I know all about America’s failed approach to psychiatric care. By the way, my son didn’t just recover from “incurable” mental illness, his mental health was completely restored because I dumped the conventional approach of using miserable, for-profit drugs and learned to wean him off synthetic drugs by giving him appropriate care, mainly “orthomolecular medicine.”

Which means using high-potency nutrients in place of drugs. (Vitamins, minerals, amino acids….)

He hasn’t needed psych drugs in years and leads a good life.

Good for you, Linda; for researching and finding a natural way!

Speaking of Dr. Hahnemann, to use his words, it truly does “bend down the soul with grief” to see someone you love become seriously depressed, then mentally ill. I know all about dealing with the police, ambulance trips to the ER, commitments to psych hospitals, and all the drugs they force patients to take that don’t cure anything. I know how lawyers and all kinds of psychiatrists and other doctors get into the act, each with their hand out to be paid handsomely for their services. To think of my lovely granddaughter being forced into that system was just terrifying to me. I knew her depression wasn’t even going to be “just” depression, that she might act on her urges and hang herself, just as my aunt had done while she was committed to our state psychiatric hospital. I believed that the Syphilitic miasm was rearing its ugly head yet again, trying to destroy another family member.

That’s the miasm of destruction. Miasm being an inherited trait; in this case, beginning with an ancestor who had syphilis, and genetically passing down the characteristics of it to future generations.

When I talked to her mother, whom I’ll call “Cindy,” I found out that Janelle had been on an antidepressant for a while.

Well that’s just great! I understand that one of the side-effects of these drugs is suicidal ideation!

Then I found out they’d had to hide the knives because Janelle had threatened to kill herself and then threatened to kill her little brother.

That’s a very good point, Linda, because there’s a thin line between suicide and homicide. Often if a person is afflicted with one, he also has the other. I think of Phil Hartman of “Saturday Night Live” whose wife killed him while he slept, and then she killed herself. She was on Prozac.

The next week she was put in a psychiatric hospital and given an anti-psychotic drug. When we visited her, it was clear she was agitated, and not living in reality. She thought she was 106 years old and that a different relative was her father. When her real father (my older son) visited her, she was angry and yelled at him for never “being there” for her.

Once she was released from the hospital, Janelle easily took the homeopathic remedies I gave her. That included the 6c remedy I made from one of her anti-psychotic pills. I followed your (Elaine’s) article online in which she explains how to make a homeopathic remedy out of a Rx drug:

https://elainelewis.hpathy.com/how-to-make-your-own-remedy/

In this way, I was able to slowly cut down the amount of the anti-psychotic drug Janelle was taking.

Now, months later, she says she takes only one pill a day but she doesn’t know if it’s an antidepressant or the anti-psychotic.

Well that’s just great….

I’ve given up trying to find out from Cindy because she doesn’t know either.

You’re kidding!

Janelle simply does what her mother tells her to do and Cindy simply does whatever the doctor tells her to do, no questions asked.

Doctors have a God-like hold on people.

Cindy doesn’t respond to my texts or emails having to do with Janelle’s mental health or her treatment. I’ve tried to find out if Janelle was taking the antidepressant before she became suicidal and homicidal but Cindy says she wasn’t. I don’t believe her.

Janelle turned 16 and during the summer she spent the night here. My son (her father) happened to stop by. Janelle hid in the bathroom with her cell phone and refused to come out. She called her mother to come and pick her up and then simply left without saying a word. She texted me, asking me to never allow my son to come and visit when she was there. Cindy and my son have never been married, never lived together, so my son has not been in Janelle’s life every day. My son has never hurt her. He has tried dozens of times to call and visit with Janelle but Cindy won’t allow it. She has been poisoning Janelle’s mind about her father since she was very young.

Linda, why does Cindy let Janelle see you?

Because I bent over backwards to be kind and helpful to her. School has started and Janelle asked me to take her home from after-school swimming practice every day so that’s what I do. I like having that 20-minutes to check on her mental and emotional health.

The first week of driving her to her house, though, Janelle hardly said a word. She was edgy and seemed preoccupied with something else. Once at her house, she would get out of the car, grab her backpack, close the car door and walk away. No “thank you, Grandma,” no good-byes, nothing. Just silence. My giggly, fun granddaughter was gone, replaced by someone who was angry, irritable and practically non-verbal.

I began looking online for help for Janelle’s symptoms and found Paul Herscu’s “Cycles and Segments” approach to homeopathy. I thought I could see Janelle in the segments of a certain remedy. For over ten years she had been clingy and always begged me to sleep with her until she fell asleep. She needed a night light on and the door open. Lately, she had developed a weird laugh although it wasn’t scary or anything, just kind of loud and forced. She felt abandoned by her father and still harbored a grudge against him for not “being there” for her. Lately, she had become closed off, preferring to stay in the car when I went into stores on errands. I tried to talk her into going with me but she would stubbornly refuse.

This remedy state can come on after a fright and there had been several in Janelle’s young life: Years earlier, late one night, her mother, Cindy, claimed she (Cindy) had seen a man on the balcony of her apartment. The police came over but didn’t find anyone. Another time, Cindy claimed a man on the bus was stalking her. She was so afraid of Janelle being “tooken” (kidnapped) that she (Janelle) still isn’t allowed to go anywhere by herself! Cindy was so afraid of knives that she didn’t like even seeing them, let alone using them. And to top it all off, Cindy’s mother (Janelle’s other grandmother) often babysat Janelle and her younger brother and everyday she would sit in the the living room with the kids, in the dark, watching scary movies, the kind I wouldn’t watch myself. So, as I said, fear is certainly a big part of Janelle’s life.

Whoa! Wait a minute! It sounds like all three of these ladies need the same remedy!

I totally agree with you!

So, because of all the years of dealing with family members’ mental and physical problems, I own literally hundreds of remedies, including the one I gave, in various potencies. So, since Janelle’s symptoms sounded like _________ to me, I gave her a dose (one pellet) of the 200c. The very next day when I picked her up, Janelle was once again vivacious, bubbly and giggly. We talked. We joked. She was engaged with me and she was engaged with life again. We like to pretend we’re British and call each other “Dahling,” and again, Janelle was happy to “become British” and play along. She didn’t just say good-bye and thanks for the ride, she held my face in her hands and gave me a kiss on each cheek, European-style. Then she gave me a kiss on my nose. I can’t put into words how happy I am to have my granddaughter back.

Good work, Linda!

I’m still trying to talk her into slowly cutting down on her one pill of whatever she’s taking so we can see what symptoms (if any) pop up. I know her symptoms can truly be cured with homeopathy instead of just being covered up with a chemical straight-jacket.

It’s now a week later: Janelle once again became anxious and angry. She was in the midst of a family drama and when her father texted her to ask how she was doing. She texted him back, telling him to “F*** off.” I figured the 200C must have worn off so the next day I took ____________ 1M with me when I went to pick her up. But she was back to her normal fun and giggly self once again! The family drama didn’t knock her off course after all! She got through it. “Dahling” and I had a fun, chatty ride to her house.

Votes

Lachesis

Stramonium-2

Arsenicum

Syphilinum

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Hello! Is anybody here today to solve this quiz for us?

Hello dear Dr. Elaine and Shana. Was Janelle Lachesis? Here are the rubrics I chose:

abandoned
fear of ghosts
suicidal depression
holds a grudge
malicious, desire to injure someone
mistakes in calculating
hatred feelings

Regards

Salma

Hi Salma, you came very close! Your second choice was right! I wasn’t able to copy and paste your chart for some reason, but, you came up with Lachesis, Stramonium and Pulsatilla. Here’s where I think you went off. First of all, there’s no mention of Janelle being afraid of ghosts. She may well have been, but, we weren’t given that information. Secondly, you’ve included rubrics that I believe were side-effects of her anti-depressant and, therefore, we can’t use them: desire for suicide and desire to injure someone.

So, here’s the part of the case where I believe the remedy is revealed:

“For over ten years she had been clingy and always begged me to sleep with her until she fell asleep. She needed a night light on and the door open. Lately, she had developed a weird laugh although it wasn’t scary or anything, just kind of loud and forced. … This remedy state can come on after a fright and there had been several….”

So, this is the unmistakable picture of Stramonium.

Fear of being alone in the dark, must sleep with a light on, needs company. So, you hear this and already you’re suspecting Stramonium, BUT, this “loud laughter” is very peculiar, very telling! Plus, the use of the word “weird”. For the most part, only the “insane” remedies have this “loud laughter”! Belladonna, Hyoscyamus and Stramonium. And you add the word “forcible” to it, and you remember (hopefully) that Stramonium has “forcible” stuttering, and you might think, “Hey! Maybe this ‘forcibleness’ is a theme of Stramonium!”

Then, if you look back at the rest of the case, you can say, “Does Stramonium have claustrophobia? Yes! Does it have dilated pupils? Yes! Does it have ailments from fright? Yes! Does it have delusion that she’s been deserted or abandoned? Yes! And you realize it covers pretty much the whole case! But the loud laughter is KEY, because it’s very peculiar, very characteristic, and the remedy would have to cover that; and luckily, that’s a small rubric with only 8 remedies in it, with only 3 in either bold or italics.

Now, your “mistakes in calculating” rubric that you chose, I think that’s actually “ailments from vaccination”; so, we can’t use it. Now, before anyone becomes outraged that I said that… according to the CDC, 1 out of 6 children in this country has a learning disability; so, we now have to look at things like not being able to do math as “common”! And what are all children getting, commonly? Vaccinated! And what are in vaccines? Neurotoxins, like Mercury and Aluminum.

Why is the pharmaceutical industry doing this to our families and children? I don’t know, maybe someone should ask them to explain the inexplicable ingredients in vaccines, why they contain MSG, formaldehyde and other bizarre ingredients like mercury! The bottom line is, when you’re taking a case, you have to factor in side effects of drugs because so many people are on them; you can’t just automatically assume that every symptom is part of the constitutional case.

Yes now I can see Sramonium suits all. I should have read it more carefully.

And not only that, but the mother has delusions there is a man out on the balcony at night, and that someone is following her on the bus! And Janelle’s other grandmother watches horror movies all day–in the dark! So, the whole family is showing signs of Stramonium! Thanks for voting, Salma!

Is anybody else here today?

Hello Elaine and Shana,

Hi Miroslav and Jitka!

we send our regular posts to your quiz.

Miroslav says: “The remedy in this case is Stramonium.“

The main topic is fear, so first of all I thought about Stramonium:

Eyes, pupils, dilated

Mind, claustrophobia

Mind, kill, desire

Mind, kill, desire, with knife

Phatak MM: he wants to kill himself and others

Mind, fear, darkness

So I would guess this remedy – Stramonium

Jitka says: “Arsenicum alb.“

When I first read your quiz, I was thinking about Stramonium (fear – darkness, claustrophobia, ghosts) and Alumina – fear of knives, the desire to kill with a knife.

Frankly, Jitka, I felt that the depression and desire to kill were side effects from the drugs the hospital put her on.

Then I realized a remedy should be on the list of remedies for syphilitic miasm. I found only incomplete lists of remedies for syphilitic miasm, but it probably concerns the most important remedies of this destructive miasm.

Syphylitic miasm – Kent: . SYPHILIS : Arg-m., Ars-i., ars-s-f., ars., asaf., Aur-m-n., Aur-m., Aur., bad., benz-ac., calc-i., calc-s., carb-an., carb-v., cinnb., clem., con., cor-r., crot-h., fl-ac., guai., hep., iod., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-chl., Kali-i., Kali-s., lach., led., Merc-c., Merc-i-f., Merc-i-r., Merc., mez., Nit-ac., petr., ph-ac., phos., Phyt., sars., Sil., staph., Still., sul-i., sulph., Syph., thuj.

Syphylitic miasm – Murphy: Merc, ars, Aur, fl. acid, kali iod, Lach, nitr. acid, Syphilinum

I searched in Murphy for rubrics that are, in my opinion, suitable for this case, and to my surprise, Arsenicum is present in everyone and moreover Arsenicum is listed among the main remedies of syphilitic miasm. Although I am not entirely convinced that this is the right remedy for all three generations of women who have been mentioned in the case, I don´t know to confirm something else. I thought that I ´m not going to guess this difficult case, but at last I can´t lose anything with this my doubtful attempt.

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Hats down in front of Linda for how excellently she has managed harmonizing the health of her family members.

In this country, we say, “Hats off”. There’s a song by Del Shannon called

“Hats Off To Larry”. (Maybe I’ll play it at the end.)

Selected rubrics: (Murphy)

Mind: Depression, children, in: abrot, ars AUR calc. Carc caust lach lyc NAT m. Rhus t, sulph

Mind: depression, girls before puberty: ars calc.p, hell, ign lach nat. m. pulse, sep.

Mind: Depression, does not want to talk: Arg N, ars, cact, Nat M. nitr. acid ph-acid pulse stann ver.

Mind: Suicide depression: knife with: alum, ars, bell, calc, hyosc, merc, nux v, stram

Mind: Suicidal depression: hang himself: ARS, aur, bell, carb.v., hell, nats., ter.,

Mind: Kill, knife with: alum, ars, hep, hyos, chin, lyc, lyss, merc ,, nux, v. salary, stram.

Mind: Learning handycapped, study, reading, learning with difficulty: Agar, Agn, anac, ars, bar. c, calc, cal.p, carc, …. lyc, merc, … phosp., … thuj

MIND: Fear, darkness, from: (many remedies): ars (2)

Well, Jitka, Miroslav was right–it’s Stramonium! Fear of the dark, needs a night light, needs company, eyes dilated, claustrophobia, etc… then there’s the grandmother, making them watch horror movies all day (ailments from fright) and the mother with her delusions about being followed and men are on the balcony at night, etc.; so, you can take the whole family together and gather symptoms from them to augment your case because very often remedy pictures are passed down from one generation to the next!

Hi Elaine and Shana!

Hi Maria!

For this month’s quiz I will vote for Stramonium, even Nux-v seems a good idea too because of the drugs she is taking. If I am wrong I will try again.

You’re not wrong, so don’t try again!

P.S 1 My regards to the lady that fought so bravely with homeopathy!

P.S 2 My search in repertory showed Belladonna in the rubrics I was interested in. But I am totally missing the mental picture of this remedy.

What do you mean? You’re missing the mental picture of Stramonium?

No, Belladonna! Sooooo, I am kindly asking if you could enlighten us, like the Medorrhinum “Tidbits”?

Hmm… You know, Belladonna doesn’t get prescribed too often for its mental picture, unless the person, or animal, has rabies. But, OK, let’s talk about Belladonna for a second. Belladonna we usually give based on the physical symptoms. Blood usually rushes to some area, like the head, and there’s throbbing and heat. The result is that the hands and feet are cold.

The patient is hyper-sensitive, can’t stand light, noise, can’t stand to be jarred (bumped into) or touched or pressed; this is why it’s so well indicated for appendicitis.

There’s a high fever with a lot of dry heat. The patient is like a radiator. There’s redness. Maybe the face is red, or the tonsils are red or the infected area is hot and red and possibly throbbing. Maybe it’s a boil that’s bright red and very sensitive to touch or jarring.

When a child has a Belladonna virus, the parent usually becomes frantic to do something fast! The illness takes on the character of an emergency, something has to be done right away! Maybe the child is screaming! Maybe he’s crying, “Help me, help me!” Belladonna children are not lying passively like Gelsemium, they’re very distressed. When the mother feels this way, that something must be done quickly, the remedy is probably Belladonna.

A Belladonna patient is also thirstless. High fever, sudden onset, no sweating, dry heat, thirstless, hypersensitive, cold feet, cold hands, distressed disposition, dilated pupils– that’s Belladonna. Also, think of Belladonna in sunstroke. I have a Belladonna quiz for you, a perfect picture of Belladonna:

https://hpathy.com/clinical-cases/revisiting-homeopathy-in-the-middle-of-the-night/

Hey everybody, Vamsi’s in the house!!!!!

Hi Elaine! That was a fantastic quiz and an intriguing one of course. I am not sure if I can “hit the bulls eye”, but would surely try it out.

The elements of the case are as follows.

Elements of the case (which I felt were most prominent )

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Miasmatic inheritance

Meaning that we can make the mother’s and grandmother’s symptoms a part of the case, even though Janelle may not have them. For instance, we can use, “Mind: delusions, pursued, thought he was”.

cluster of warts

I don’t think we can use that because the other homeopath got rid of them with some remedy. Palladium?

Weak at logical stuff (math)

Vamsi, I think we would attribute that to “ailments from vaccinations”. According to the CDC, 1 in 6 children has a learning disability, making her inability to do math a “common” symptom! And as you know, in homeopathy, we can’t use common symptoms in finding a remedy.

hatred towards dear ones

No, she only hates her father, and that’s because her mother hates her father! She’s just taking her cue from her mother.

fear factor (in-built due to scary movies)

Call that “ailments from fright”.

self destruction (wants to hang myself)

Vamsi, I have a feeling that’s a side-effect of her antidepressant. If you look up any antidepressant, Zoloft, for example, look at what it says under “side effects”: Aggressive reaction, suicidal thoughts and actions….

Rubrics I can list are :

MIND – Confusion and weakness of memory

Digust, Fear, Irritability,

Mistakes : in calculating

SKIN – eruptions – syphylitic ( warts )

Hate, terror, and fear reign covertly or overtly, the case and a sense of Self Destruction, which I feel would I go for SYPHILINUM.

Elaine, if its wrong please let me know your thoughts and I would try again.

You know, unlike our other nosodes like Medorrhinum and Carcinosin, we hardly ever use Syphilinum! This little girl–Janelle–has a very clear remedy picture–and so does her mother and grandmother! Here’s what we have: fear of the dark, must have a light on, fear of being alone in the dark, can’t sleep alone. Her mother thinks men are there who aren’t there! And her mother watches horror movies all day–in the dark!!!! This spells out clearly only one remedy: Stramonium!

This is the spooky, scary remedy; the remedy for nightmares, night terrors. There’s either a fear of the color black or anything dark and somber, or conversely, the person dresses all in black (and in the grandmother’s case, watches horror movies all day!)

I have a Stramonium Quiz you might like to see where all the children in the house were Stramonium, but each one with a different piece of the remedy:

https://hpathy.com/clinical-cases/revisiting-scary-halloween-virus-hits-the-heartland/

Oh! And I just found another one:

https://hpathy.com/case-quizes/revisiting-child-scary-virus-hears-voices/

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So listen, let’s congratulate our two grand winners–Maria and Miroslav! And as promised, for Jitka, here’s “Hat’s Off To Larry”:

Hats off to Larry, he broke your heart, but you laughed at me when you said we must part, you told me lies, now it’s your turn to cry (cry cry) now that Larry said good-bye to you.