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Revisiting: I Crave Water!!!!!!

Shana at Sabrinas recently

Elaine gives the answer to the January Quiz.

Hi again everybody! It’s time to give the long-awaited answer to last month’s quiz! Is everybody ready?

Mom, I doubt that anybody remembers last month’s quiz.

Are you sure????? OK, roll tape, Shana….

…and, ACTION!

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Shana, time to get off facebook, you’ve been on there for an hour, and we have to start the quiz!

Shana at Sabrinas recently 2012

Can’t you do it without me Mom? We’re trying to decide which was the first Rock ‘n’ Roll record!

Oh!  Well that’s different!  Never mind!  I’ll just try to do this myself.  Testing -Testing!  Is this thing on?

Just start talking, Mom!

OK, I’ll try, but if you hear an explosion….

You’ll be fine!

Here goes nothing.

Today Today Today Today Today ………
 

Turn off the reverb!

The What? What? What? What?

The echo!

This is too complicated.. cated.. cated.. cated..

Mom, you’re hopeless!  Give me that!  Now here, start talking.

Hopefully it’s safe to talk now? OK. So, today we have with us our good friend Maria, one of our most loyal quiz answerers, and she is here to present her own case. Take it away, Maria!

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Elaine, in a word, HELP!!!!!!  I’ve answered the questionnaire:

Questionnaire

1. Describe the complaint or complaints in your own words.

Suddenly, I got my period today took a Colocynthis in the morning (did not work very well) and I ate 2 pieces of toast with cheese and tomato and a donut.

Holy crap!  A donut?  Mama mia! What kind of toast? Even if the toast was whole wheat, the donut would have canceled out any good it might have done. Here is a good breakfast for you:

This is a spinach, tomato, onion and cheese omelet and fried potatoes; which, of course, I made myself.

I went to take a nap after my so-called “breakfast”.
I woke up in the evening and started feeling suffocated and nauseous.

My left arm started to feel numb and I was ready to faint.

I went and laid down on the couch and after some minutes I threw up.

I started to feel really thirsty and drank a whole bottle of water in the course of an hour.

I felt so bloated from drinking so much water, but I could not satisfy my thirst. I wanted to
drink so much water, but my stomach didn’t have enough room! I drank a glass of water and in some minutes I threw it up.

Then a diarrhea showed up. I can hear the roar sound of my intestines. My main problem is that I am so thirsty, I can’t describe how much.

Before today I was thirstless almost all my life. And today I cannot get enough water; I cant drink because I will throw it up, or it will make me feel nauseous. If I drink sour orange juice, it makes the thirst more bearable.

I also have chills since the diarrhea, but no fever. And I am sitting in an electric blanket because heat makes the period better and my chills better.

All I ask is to be able to drink oceans of water!

2. Etiology–this means the CAUSE, if you know it.

Maybe the donut was bad, because it was the only thing I was belching.

3. Sensation–describe the pain or other feeling you have.

[no answer]

4. Appearance– anything remarkable? Red skin, droopy eyes, etc.?

No.

5. Location–where on the body is your complaint located?

Stomach.

6. Modalities–What makes your complaint better or worse?

Empty stomach makes me feel better. Vomiting makes me feel better.

7. Concomitants (other symptoms that are “along for the ride”).

Thirsty!! I am so thirsty I could die, because I want so much to drink water but makes me feel nauseous because I drink a lot. This thirst appeared after vomiting the first time. Also I am with empty stomach but I feel no hunger!!! only thirst.

It appeared on my first day of menses!

8. Discharges–

Offensive diarrhea.

9. Generals–these are all the symptoms that begin with the word “I”:

I am weak, cold, thirsty!

10. The mentals:

I thought I was gonna die from suffocation, but vomiting made it better.
I told my mom to leave the phone open in case I need her in the night.

11. What have you been saying?

I am thirsty!!!!

12. What are you doing?

Lying on the couch, and watching TV and trying to sleep.

13. Describe your thirst and appetite–

I am thirsty like the Sahara desert. I drink from bottle in room temperature. I think I am attracted to sour juices. I don’t feel hunger, if I think of eating food I become nauseous.

14. Fever?

No.

15. Sweating?

No.

16. Odors?

No.

17. What is most striking, peculiar or identifying about your condition?

The thirst.

18. Is there a diagnosis?

No, it is like a gastroenteritis, or food poisoning or something like that.

19. Describe your energy–

I am quiet, and want to be alone.

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I recommended that Maria take ___________________________. Here’s her post-remedy report:

Élaine, I am sorry for the late response. The remedy, ______________________200C, worked; it made me sleep very deeply, and when I woke up I had no thirst nor nausea. I have to admit that I was amazed.

Great news!  🙂  I guess most of you know that if a remedy puts you to sleep, that’s a very good sign. It also shows that the potency chosen was perfect! Please note what these high potencies were meant for: acutes of significant intensity. We’re trying to match power with power. Potency has nothing to do with how “deep” a case is. Ignore statements like, “If the case is on the physical plane, you need a low potency because physical means superficial; hence, a superficial potency.” Potency selection correlates with intensity and time.  A recent occurrence deserves a higher potency. Something both recent and intense would be ultra-suitable for high potency. The longer you’ve had a complaint, and the less intense it is, the more the lower potencies taken regularly apply.  Remember, the remedy must be in water with five succussions before each dose.

If you know what remedy our thirsty friend needed, write to me at [email protected]. The answer will be in next month’s ezine.  And P.S., if you have an opinion about which was the first Rock ‘n’ Roll record, we want to hear your view on that too!  We’ll see you back here in February! Bye-bye!

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OK, everybody, first things first! According to alert reader Peter Dunseith, the first Rock ‘n’ Roll record was (drum roll, please):
“Good Rockin’ Tonight” by Roy Brown from 1947!  I’d say he’s probably right! Here’s Peter’s and my scintillating conversation:

Hi Elaine,

As for the first rock ‘n roll record, I’d say this honour belongs to Roy Brown’s jump blues number called ‘Good Rocking Tonight’, released in 1947 – but the term rock ‘n roll was only coined in 1951 by the radio DJ Alan Freed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w90iLvYwJoI

OMG! You are so smart!!!!! You know what? That was the song we opened our show with in the ’80’s (The Silhouettes and me). I don’t mean to be technical, but, this was the version (below) we learned by Roy Brown, still from 1947:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdzS4OSQ1M

I never heard the version you linked to above. My husband sang lead, I played the bass. As a matter of fact, I totally brought one of our rehearsals to a screeching halt when we were learning this song!  (And for some reason, I’m convinced that everyone is dying to hear this!) So, the fellas were singing along to the record and they couldn’t hear the chord change coming out of the verse: “No, Rick,” I interrupted, “the song is going to A, not B7th! They’re doing A-B7th-E; not B7th-A-E!” (Actually, in the version you posted, Peter, they are going to B7th first. This is why I had to be careful to find the version we sang.)  I think it was the biggest fight we ever had, the rehearsal ended, everybody went home, Rick and I were still fighting, and I said, “Call Lou, he’ll tell you!” Lou is our guitar player. You can see him below on the left:

That’s Lou on the far left, me on the far right next to Rick Lewis.

So, Rick puts the record on and plays it for Lou, and Lou says, “B7th-A-E”. And I said, “LOU!!!!! Listen again!” We play it for him again and he says, “Oh. She’s right. It’s A-B7th-E.” So Rick says, “He just changed it for YOU!” “Why would he do that?” I said, “You’re the boss, not me!” Somehow I did prevail in the end, I don’t know how I did it, God knows; but, that’s my memory of “Good Rockin’ Tonight” by Roy Brown–most probably the first Rock ‘n’ Roll record.

Elaine!

I hope you still find time for rock ‘n roll, because YOU ROCK!

I do????? Well, Peter, I often post a link to a really great song, like I did in the answer to last month’s quiz (“A Toothache Royale!”), and every once in a while someone will say, “I really liked the song”; but, only very rarely does someone actually say, “You Rock!” (Actually, no one has ever said it.  And in fact, Shana thinks I’m a “square”!) So, thank you!!!!!!!!  I’m glad that at least one person is listening in my official capacity as Hpathy.com’s DJ.

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Votes:

Arsenicum-9

Belladonna

Phosphorus-3

Sulphur

Veratrum alb.-4

I CANNOT BELIEVE all the enthusiastic replies we got this time! Everyone had something to say! I don’t know if I actually have space for everyone’s comments, there were so many! Well, I’ll see what I can do. Here we go…..

Hello Elaine,

Hello!!!!!

My guess for this month’s quiz is Arsenicum :

1. unquenchable thirst.

Right, but, what’s characteristic about Arsenicum’s thirst?

2. nausea at thought of food.

3. Ailments from decayed food. (donut)

Is that a real rubric? Ailments from decayed food? I can’t find it. Do we even know if the donut was “bad”? Do we know what about the donut could have set her off? Ailments from sweets? Ailments from fat? (They’re fried in vegetable oil, you know), ailments from rich food? The truth is, we don’t know enough about the donut situation to make it into a rubric.

4. weak, cold and thirsty!

Yes, definitely, the remedy will have to fit this picture: weak, cold and thirsty, and Arsenicum does fit that. But there’s more information we can use. What goes against arsenicum in this case? Let me get the chart up:

OK, so I think everyone can see now that the remedy is Veratrum alb. Why can’t it be Arsenicum? Let’s see if someone knows….

Dear Elaine,

the answer for January is arsenicum album:

the rubrics are

generalities; INTOXICATION, after (350)
mind; FEAR; happen; something will (222)
mind; FEAR; suffocation, of (75)
generalities; VOMITING; amel. (107)
generalities; FOOD and drinks; sour, acid; desires (158)
generalities; APPLICATIONS; warm; amel. (105)
stomach; VOMITING; drinking; agg.; immediately (22)
stomach; VOMITING; stool; during; diarrhea (144)
stomach; NAUSEA; food; thinking of (47)
stomach; THIRST; burning, violent (119)
stomach; THIRST; extreme (312)
stomach; THIRST; unquenchable, constant (125)
stomach; THIRST; large quantities, for (117)
Thank you

Sebastiano Di Salvo, MD, Italy

Think: Why can’t it be Arsenicum? There are three areas that point away from Arsenicum:

1. This case has mentals, and they don’t match Arsenicum!

2. The desire for sour and sour citrus goes more for what remedy? There’s a rubric, “Food: sour, desires, citric acid”–just two remedies, Pulsatilla and Veratrum alb!

3. The aggravation time (evening) doesn’t match with Arsenicum’s late-night aggravation time.

4. What is Arsenicum’s energy like? Restless, right? She is not restless. She says she’s “quiet”, and even worse, she wants to be alone. OMG! Could Arsenicum possibly be alone? Heavens no!

5. The thirst. Yes, Arsenicum is thirsty, but for sips at a time. Veratrum is thirsty for large quantities and often; which is what we have here!

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Hello Ma’m,

You can call me Elaine. And as a matter of fact, this to all you Indian and Pakistani readers out there, you’re much too polite! No one uses “mam” here anymore, it’s a very quaint expression. Everyone here in the United States feels very equal to everyone else; so, here, any grown-up would call me Elaine. A child might call me Mrs. Lewis; but if you’re a grown-up, please feel free to call me Elaine, and that’s pronounced E-laine, the “ai” having a long “A” sound. And Shana’s name is pronounced “Shay-nuh”. OK? So, that’s our spelling lesson for the day.

Sorry to say I don’t know the answer of this month’s quiz

That’s refreshing, someone who doesn’t know the answer! Don’t worry, no one else does either! So you should feel very safe in guessing. Hint: here are the elements of the case:

stomach, vomiting

vomiting with diarrhea

vomiting with chills

desire for warmth

desire for sour foods

thirst for large quantities

vomiting with collapse/weakness

evening aggravation

There, now you have something to work with; so, see what you can come up with.

but believe me I enjoyed both the quiz and the music a lot !

Give this person a gold star! (Dr. B, where do we keep the gold stars?)

I have yet to learn some more things, at least to guess intelligently.
Ma’m will it be helpful reading the Sehgal method books?

I have nooooooooo idea! You know what? You need an acute prescribing book! I just opened my acute prescribing book–actually, it’s Alan Schmukler’s book (Homeopathy: An A to Z Home Handbook) and I went alphabetically to “vomiting”, and the remedy is right there (along with other possible candidates). So, get yourself a home remedy kit, an acute prescribing book, and you will be fine!

Thanking you, E-laine!! I’ll get the acute prescribing book right away!

Rabi

🙂

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Hi Elaine!

I’ve missed the last couple of quizes ‘cuz sometimes I have to work, you know!

I envy you!

but I’m back in action with this month’s brain teaser.

The obvious remedy is Phosphorus

D’oh! Well, yes, it is obvious but…..other than vomiting after drinking and burning thirst for large quantities, Phosphorus doesn’t score very well! For example, a major element in the case–vomiting and diarrhea at the same time–Phosphorus only gets a 1 for that. And then there’s the collapsed state with vomiting that Phosphorus isn’t listed for at all!

That would certainly be my first choice.

OK, I’ve got you down for one dose of Phosphorus to go! (No vote on the first Rock ‘n’ Roll record?)

Best,

Diderik Finne

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Hi Elaine,

Hi!!! It’s about time you showed up!

Happy New Year!
I love January, because I can throw myself at everybody and hug them and wish them a happy new year – so here’s one for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2i4AjozHag

Great cartoon! thanks!

Anyway, I think the poor lady with the thirst might do quite well on Veratrum album:

OMG! I think you may be our first winner!!!!

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!

VOMITING AND DIARRHEA DURING MENSES
Cravings: <<Sour. Sour fruit.

Intense thirst.

Diarrhea profuse and debilitating.

Diarrhea, worse during menses.

Veratrum is also cold and weak.

Wow. That really sums it up! Give yourself five gold stars, Eva! (Dr. B, again, the gold stars, where are they?)

Cheers,
Eva

Let me just say that Eva has reminded us of something very important. Veratrum album is a very big “first-day-of-menses” remedy, and this was the first day of menses for Maria, let’s not forget that!

So, I could just go on and on with all the comments that poured in; but, here’s what you should take away from this case:

Diarrhea and vomiting at the same time

chilliness

weakness

thirst for large quantities, normally of ice cold water

FAINTING, or nearly-fainting

and desire for sour, or sour citrus, this is your picture of Veratrum alb.

Why can’t it be Arsenicum? No fear of death!!!!!! No desperate need for company! Plus, Arsenicum is generally thirsty for small sips at a time; plus, we see no restlessness here, and the wrong aggravation time for Arsenicum.

So now, we should congratulate our winners!

Congratulations go to:

Eva the Picklet, Yitka, Maya and Drofart whose real name is Choudhury Mrinal Kar Mohapatra.

Yes, all that is his name!

Thanks everybody, and to sing us out this week, a tribute to the late Bobby Phillips of the Cadillacs who recently passed away. He does bass lead on this song, which I’ve always loved. Shana, a picture of the Cadillacs, please?

Check!

That’s Bobby on the right, and here they are with “Peek A Boo, I’m Watching You!” This goes out to Peter! Bye-bye!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UaKo63_Q7Q

About the author

Elaine Lewis

Elaine Lewis

Elaine Lewis, D.Hom., C.Hom.
Elaine is a passionate homeopath, helping people offline as well as online. Contact her at [email protected]
Elaine is a graduate of Robin Murphy's Hahnemann Academy of North America and author of many articles on homeopathy including her monthly feature in the Hpathy ezine, "The Quiz". Visit her website at:
https://elainelewis.hpathy.com/ and TheSilhouettes.org

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