our friend Caralyn sent me this video for us to figure out; but, I don’t know if it’s long enough or tells enough of a story. This is a video of a lady who performs rituals because she’s afraid if she doesn’t, her son will get cancer and die. The rituals protect him from dying. Let me know what you think.
[editor’s note: the video is no longer available.]
we could start by looking at what core situation we are dealing with. The lady is trying to prevent her son from getting cancer because she won’t be able to handle the possibility of him dying. That would be the end of her; and she cries, as if it had already happened…which, in my opinion, is exactly what HAS happened somewhere in the past, in her core story. Why else would she be compulsively trying to prevent it from happening again? Why is she trying to save her son, who at the moment is completely well? Simple – this is what happened to her way back when, and the “memory” of this event is still with her and affecting her life. What we are dealing with here is a compensation caused by her core story. In a past incarnation, her son must have died from cancer, and even though she tried to save him, he ended up dying anyway and she never recovered. Which remedy story does this remind you of?
Oh geez, if I had known there was going to be a test, I would have studied! OK, I’m going to take a stab at it here and say………Carcinosin?
And look at the woman in the film, Mati, the mom; she’s very likable, very down to earth, very loving and giving, a real sweetheart (like moi!) You feel very sympathetic towards her, she seems very kind and caring, your heart goes out to her; plus, you see the fastidiousness Carcinocin is famous for (“I hate odd numbers!”) the desire for symmetry/balance (things being in order), “If I perform these rituals, I can stop bad things from happening.” So, this is all part of the Carcinosin picture, is it not?
I knew you would get it, Elaine!!! Notice, too, how she has no concern for herself or her own situation.
That’s true, and look how down-to-earth she is, her face isn’t made-up, hair not fussed over, dress is casual….
She is a single mom, which is not easy. Someone must have abandoned her, but, not once does she complain about her own situation.
Right. Is being a single mom a clue to Carcinosin, or just a coincidence?
No, it is the lack of complaining that is the clue.
Carcinosins don’t complain, even if they are abandoned and end up with nothing from the relationship, and often no help and no money. They don’t feel very sorry about themselves, because they are usually more concerned with others.
Aha again! That is so true!
Her only concern is to keep her son safe, and she’ll do whatever she can to save him, even if it hurts her foot, and she has to spend 5 minutes turning off the water at the sink. If she thinks it is going to help, she’ll do it anyway!
She has to do it evenly.
In the Carcinosin story, the person was in some kind of crisis, and of course, she was the only one who could save the day. And, there was time pressure, and the need to do the perfect thing, or else…
Yes, and odd numbers are definitely not perfect!
Right! And, someone was relying on her to save them. And, because she wasn’t able to save the person, she could never get over the fact that she possibly could have saved him, but didn’t, and it was all her fault, and she just couldn’t cope with it for the rest of her life. She might even have committed suicide as a result (“it will be the end of me”).
So, in this lifetime, such a person is born feeling an unusual amount of responsibility, especially towards anyone in an unfortunate situation. You’ll find Carcinosins working in emergency rooms, where they get to save people all the time. They put their own needs aside and work overtime with no thought of how tired or hungry they are, and there is time pressure and a need to do the perfect thing, or the person won’t make it and it is all their fault!
Or, you’ll find Carcinosins that have adopted special needs children. I remember one nurse who decided to adopt a baby who had serious diabetes. He lived in the hospital because his parents had abandoned him, and the hospital was getting so much funding for keeping him there, that when the nurse decided to adopt him and take him home, the hospital threatened to fire her.
Holy Mary Wilson Mother of Motown! And we trust hospitals to do right by us when we’re sick? That basically means that any therapy that isn’t profitable is rejected out of hand!
Who trusts these places? Not me…
Come to think of it, I don’t trust them either!
So, Carcinosins are always ready to sacrifice themselves for a good cause. It is the archetype of the martyr we are dealing with here, and of course, they never receive any thanks for anything they do (that is part of the picture…) Anyway, I’m rambling, here.
You’re not rambling! But why do they never receive thanks for what they do?
It has to do with the delusions that go with Carcinosin. Carcinosin is under the delusion that if they save someone, that person will love them forever, or at least show their appreciation in some way. And, because this is a delusion, people won’t thank them, and then they build up resentment and feel unappreciated. One of the lessons they are here to learn is to appreciate themselves, and to stop expecting it to come from others. Once they learn this lesson, and drop the idea that saving someone will give them love, then thanks and appreciation can come, but it only happens if no expectation is there.
OK, I’ll have to think about that for a minute…..
I’ll leave you there to think about it while I get back to the case. She says “I do all this stuff to stop bad things from happening!”
This is what I was talking about in the last case we did – superstitious behavior is all about controlling your luck and preventing bad things from happening. Well, in this case, this is really the ONLY thing she can do. How do you prevent cancer from happening in a healthy person?
That’s a good point!
Well, you can feed them organic food and stay away from as many harmful chemicals as possible. But what if she was feeding him good food when the original story happened, and he still got cancer and died?
Mati, your average person is totally unaware of the things we take for granted in terms of preventing cancer. Diet? Drugs? Vaccinations? Electromagnetic fields? Microwave ovens? Electric blankets? I don’t think anyone’s made the connection! They think cancer is something that’s “out there”, hovering, and can just pick you out at random and there’s nothing you can do about it!
True. It is time people became aware that everything advertised on TV isn’t necessarily good for our health.
In fact, Mati, it’s even worse than that. A lot of the food we buy has been chemically altered to make it addicting to keep us coming back for more! That’s why I always say, “Don’t buy corporate food!” If it’s advertised on TV, don’t buy it! Cancer is something we give to ourselves through unnatural lifestyle choices–food and drugs, chief among them.
Then it is down to luck or destiny and how do you control someone’s destiny? It is not an easy thing to do. If there is a chance that superstitious behavior and rituals would save your son, would you do it? I know I probably would….
If you think about it in a bigger picture, you’ll find that aboriginal peoples all over the world perform rituals any time they need to control what is happening, whether it has to do with sickness, crops or making it rain. I think it has to do with creating some kind of conversation with the universe about what they want or don’t want, and we know from science that thought is energy, and this energy carries intention, and this intention has an effect on the environment, so maybe this kind of behavior does make sense in its own way. Maybe we, as civilized beings, have come so far away from our natural state that we no longer believe that what we do can make a difference…
Mati, now you’re rambling!
Sorry it sounds like rambling, but there is a point in there. The point is, that doing rituals is a natural part of our human heritage.
I got it!
You got it?
I got it!
The problem in this case is that her ritualistic behavior is obsessive. She thinks that if she does these things enough, that she will have the power to stop bad things from happening. The problem is that if someone puts that much energy into trying to stop something bad from happening in the future, she can actually create or attract exactly what she is afraid of.
Oh, that is so true! It’s like they say, “If you go looking for trouble, you’ll find it.”
We can see this in all the remedies – people always attract or create the fears that are associated with their remedy profile.
That is so true!
We attract them because that is what we are here to learn more about. So, from that point of view, a Carcinosin must, first of all, learn to overcome their fear of cancer…
Cancer-schmancer! (How am I doing?)
…and also must learn to let go and allow life to take its own course, and the hardest lesson of all is to let other people do their own work. Carcinosin will gladly jump in and take over the whole situation, and do whatever it takes to get a situation under control, and people don’t learn anything from that.
They learn from doing their own work, and Carcinosin must learn to step aside and just watch what happens.
The biggest problem with Carcinosin is that they love to play God – they want to take on all the responsibility and be in total control – which of course is impossible. So, learning to let go is a big thing for Carcinosin.
Mati, is that really the case? That they want to play God?
Yes, they don’t think God is doing a very good job most of the time, and of course, they can do it better.
I think maybe they can! Would you turn in a project that looks like this?????
Why REALLY do Carcinosins get into these situations involving rescuing people and animals?
Why? Because they weren’t able to rescue the being/person in question in the original story, so they are compensating for the rest of eternity.
Ooohhhhhhh!!!! Very good answer! Just as a point of interest, do you know how many dogs I had at one time? Three. All strays. Do you want to know how many cats I’ve taken care of because people needed someone to take care of their cats? Six. Oh, and “thanked”? Was I thanked? I don’t think so! Do you know why? Because the “people” left their cats with me for so long that I was shocked when they came for them! Was I paid to take care of these animals? Of course not! So, coming for the cats became a trauma for everyone instead of a “thank you”. Do you want to know what happens when I say “No”?
I’m going to keep that in mind next time I need someone to take care of my cat.
How do you like my Afro?
Oh, and for heaven’s sake, pleeeeeze buy Mati’s book, Beyond the Veil of Delusions